E36 328 vs Alfa 156 2.0

[eddiedee]

Hey guys, im currently driving BMW 328i model E36, yesterday night i med an ALFA romeo 156 2.0 before ? is damn fast all the way follow my tail at kesas highway from klang until bukit jalil and my car speed meter show speed 230km/h. any of you guys face or try race with it before ?Any solutions ? damn no face le. please advise !!!

 

[fabianyee]

Hey guys, im currently driving BMW 328i model E36, yesterday night i med an ALFA romeo 156 2.0 before ? is damn fast all the way follow my tail at kesas highway from klang until bukit jalil and my car speed meter show speed 230km/h. any of you guys face or try race with it before ?

Any solutions ? damn no face le. please advise !!!

solution??

- maintain your car properly. Hard core alfisti are passionate with their cars, use expensive good oil and bla bla bla...
- your car auto, his car manual.
- Join HPC and improve on your driving skills..

oh btw, the car following behind has the advantage as you being in front act as a wind deflector. So it requires less effort to chase then being chased...

And no point racing on the road, dangerous... Join us at the track..
see here: http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16993

 

[535i]

Can a 156 hit circa 230kmh ? Unless it's modded.

 

[olygopoly]

Hey guys, im currently driving BMW 328i model E36, yesterday night i med an ALFA romeo 156 2.0 before ? is damn fast all the way follow my tail at kesas highway from klang until bukit jalil and my car speed meter show speed 230km/h. any of you guys face or try race with it before ?

Any solutions ? damn no face le. please advise !!!

walawei. huhu damn fast that car. but i agree with what bro fabianyee said. dont race la. dangerous one.

 

[anaksarawak]

Hope Alfa Club member not reading this... sure kena laugh at..

Eddiedee.. life is fragile bro, HPC is more fun.

Are you sure it is not an Alfa 156 GTA?? Like many BMW's owners who has upgraded their engine to M3 or add turbo or supercharger

here the

engine 60 Degree, All Alloy, V6
position Front Tansverse
valvetrain DOHC, 4 Valves per Cyl
displacement 3179 cc / 194.0 cu in
bore 93 mm / 3.66 in
stroke 78 mm / 3.07 in
compression 10.5:1
power 186.4 kw / 250 bhp @ 6200 rpm
hp per litre 78.64 bhp per litre
bhp/weight 177.3 bhp per tonne
torque 300 nm / 221.3 ft lbs @ 4800 rpm
drive wheels FWD
body / frame Unit Steel
front brakes Brembro Vented Discs w/ABS, EBD, ASR, 4-Pot Calipers, Vacuum Ass
f brake size 305 mm / 12.0 in
rear brakes Brembro Vented Discs w/ABS, EBD, ASR, Vacuum Assist
r brake size 276 mm / 10.9 in
front wheels F 43.2 x 19.0 cm / 17.0 x 7.5 in
rear wheels R 43.2 x 19.0 cm / 17.0 x 7.5 in
front tire size 225/45ZR17
rear tire size 225/45ZR17
steering Rack & Pinion w/Power Assist
f suspension Double Wishbones w/Doubel Trailing Arms, Anti-Roll Bar, Telescop
r suspension MacPherson Struts w, Transverse Levers, Offset Coil Springs, Ant
weight 1410 kg / 3109 lbs
transmission 6-Speed Manual or Paddle Shift Sequential
gear ratios 3.500:1, 2.235:1, 1.520:1, 1.156:1, 0.971:1, 0.816:1
final drive 3.733:1
top speed 249.4 kph / 155.0 mph
0 - 60 mph 6.3 seconds

 

[astroboy]

FWD horse power deliver to wheel is more efficient compare to RWD car mah.. Meaning on the straight, going for top speed, FWD car will have some advantage. Chassis also lighter because missing the central propeller shaft tunnel. But their chassis flex more than ours la. Ours very rigid and SAFE!

The propeller shaft alone in the RWD car is damn heavy lio.. Try curvy road la.. 3 series can score better.. whether driver up to it or not, dunno la.. I have seen E36 M3 makan R33 GTR in Batu 3 track. Sap sap the water! while the R33 is all over the place despite more powerful, having problem keeping to the racing line.

 

[Lee36328]

Any solutions ?

Joined since May 2007, and this is your first post? Hmm...

Anyways, look for a corner, and torque-steer the sucker into the nearest hedge...

 

[fabianyee]

stock figure for 156 TS selespeed

PerformanceFuel DeliveryInjectionBHP155.0Torque (lbs feet)137.9RPM to which the Torque refers3500Maximum Speed (mph)
134Acceleration (0-60)8.6
134mph = 215kph

ur speedometer showing 230kph but actual speed would be between 220 - 225kph... if the Alfa is modded, then it shouldn't be too much trouble to go beyond 215kph... and there's some slipstream effect as he was tailing you..

for the E36, see here: http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3017

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Model: Engine: Power: Topspeed: Year:
328i M52 6 cylinder 193 HP 236 km/h 1994 - 1998
******************

I suspect this figure is for the 328i manual, our CKD 4-speed GM autobox will not give the same performance...

 

[Lee36328]

Can a 156 hit circa 230kmh ? Unless it's modded.

Might be a single-post alfa guy trying to have some fun here...

 

[astroboy]

Any solution? Yes! Plenty.

1. Keep the E36, but go look for an M3 engine transplant.
2. Ditch the E36, go get a RM199k Civic Type R.. bypass the speed limiter.. even 3.2L Alfa 156 GTA also cannot tapau u.

There's this thing called terminal velocity.. even if we move parallel to the earth surface.. wind force created will limit your speed and it takes a much greater deal of horse power to move a little faster compare to moving from stationary.

 

[moots]

The propeller shaft alone in the RWD car is damn heavy lio..

Heavy....?betul ka?Propshafts are not solid pieces.they are hollow....and no they are not heavy at all....as confirmed by the weight of my e30 and e34 propshafts when I had them removed last.........

 

[535i]

Might be a single-post alfa guy trying to have some fun here...

I had more problem gunning down a 328 as compared to a 156 2.0 .... :wink:

 

[Russie]

Eddiedee, I know how you feel when kena cucuk from behind at high speed. Like many of us here said, life is short and precious... do not race with them on public road. Those who cucuk from behind may think it is fun, but if it the crashes into the front car, I believe they would somehow regret too. Wanna race and get to drive proactively? Join the HPC

Drive safe, ok? Cheers

 

[drag86]

Eddiedee, I know how you feel when kena cucuk from behind at high speed. Like many of us here said, life is short and precious... do not race with them on public road. Those who cucuk from behind may think it is fun, but if it the crashes into the front car, I believe they would somehow regret too. Wanna race and get to drive proactively? Join the HPC

Drive safe, ok? Cheers

Don't play play with Alfa, in the early 80's own one Guilia 1.3. Damn good car better that my E28. Can goes to 160mph anytime no modification.

 

[fabianyee]

Don't play play with Alfa, in the early 80's own one Guilia 1.3. Damn good car better that my E28. Can goes to 160mph anytime no modification.

160mph???? that's 256kph!! from a 80's 1.3... this I really got to see...

 

[drag86]

160mph???? that's 256kph!! from a 80's 1.3... this I really got to see...

Yup.. the speedo meter max. speed 160mph....the car already kaput. Use only for 9mths whole engine burnt.

 

[rahizwan]

Yup.. the speedo meter max. speed 160mph....the car already kaput. Use only for 9mths whole engine burnt.

wah never knew that 80's alfa 1.3 can run that fast...:top:

 

[Zul_84]

Alfa Giulia?

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translat...AlfaGiulia.htm&lp=es_en&.intl=us&fr=yfp-t-501

 

[astroboy]

From the website provided by Zul_84, even the Super Giulia 1.6 can only hit 175kph nia..

I think drag86 must been looking at a dual reading speedo with the internal MPH dial faded lio.. so he read MPH but looking at the bigger outer kph dial..

 

[Russie]

Don't play play with Alfa, in the early 80's own one Guilia 1.3. Damn good car better that my E28. Can goes to 160mph anytime no modification.

Yeah, dont play play with Alfa Romeo. Simply any model also can race... they are from the racing breed of engine. So the next time you see an Alfa Romeo on the street, just let it pass unless you have a machine to match or even to beat its power (I know my E36 M43 cannot beat them).

Cheers