Speed Trap System - live in August 2012!

[JBJB]

True that there will be new drivers on the road all the time, so there is still need for awareness campaign. However, the knowledge of following the speed limit is something basic taught in the driving school. But I guess people could use a reminder

Only time will tell if the AES will reduce speeding and road fatalities. I do think it will reduce some, by how much I don't know. In the end whether it is AES or some other system, it comes down to enforcement in order to get people to follow the law. Funny, when we Malaysians travel overseas many tend to follow the road laws, e.g. in Australia where the speed limit is quite strictly enforced the Malaysian driver who might be a speed demon at home, suddenly becomes more docile

And this not only applies to speeding but other laws as well. The rampant cases of snatch theft, petty crimes and robbery... many Malaysians feel the police are not doing enough. Like half hearted to catch the thieves and even if caught the petty thieves are not dealt with severely, so they continue their ways because the enforcement is not strong. That's another topic but I think the principle is the same.

 

[zhul]

Good news folks! No AES until end of the year. Apparently in their haste to make money, they forgot to certify the cameras.

So enjoy your balik kampung trip but beware of blue tents near R&R during daytime trips

 

[dzuljazz2001]

Agreed with your comments :top: ...

New Initiatives :top: ---> Strategies :top:---> Implementation :stupido2:--> Monitoring :63:---> Enforcement:thumpdown:...

True that there will be new drivers on the road all the time, so there is still need for awareness campaign. However, the knowledge of following the speed limit is something basic taught in the driving school. But I guess people could use a reminder

Only time will tell if the AES will reduce speeding and road fatalities. I do think it will reduce some, by how much I don't know. In the end whether it is AES or some other system, it comes down to enforcement in order to get people to follow the law. Funny, when we Malaysians travel overseas many tend to follow the road laws, e.g. in Australia where the speed limit is quite strictly enforced the Malaysian driver who might be a speed demon at home, suddenly becomes more docile

And this not only applies to speeding but other laws as well. The rampant cases of snatch theft, petty crimes and robbery... many Malaysians feel the police are not doing enough. Like half hearted to catch the thieves and even if caught the petty thieves are not dealt with severely, so they continue their ways because the enforcement is not strong. That's another topic but I think the principle is the same.

 

[beemerback]

The AES system is not only designed to capture speeding offences and inter alia, double line overtaking, beating the red light and a host of other traffic offences. The point of contention is "will it greatly reduce the traffic violation problems our beloved country is facing daily?"

Time and again we see many campaigns and other implementations that were supposed to do good but what I see is the lack of "follow through". I feel that this sort of important measurements should not be just a "hangat hangat tahi ayam" affair and it is a duly expensive exercise just to see it rotting away later such as:-

a. Demerit points system (what happened?) How many has been barred from driving?
b. Speeding lorries will activate a red blinking light at the top (what happened?)

Taxi drivers are still fleecing passengers by not using the meters (even though the rate has been adjusted upwards) and bike lanes are not maintained properly. Even "Tak Nak" campaign (please google if you have forgotten what this was) where millions has been spent but I dont see a reduction in the amount of tax collected from ciggies?

I am all in support of the government but I stress that it has to do more. Inculcating good drivers begins from primary school and from parents as well. Not just from cameras and notices of traffic violations.

The AES needs the support of "not easy to dismantle or having the alphabets/numbers changed in the registration plate". It is so easy to change the plate to another set of figures now. What is there to stop dishonest drivers from doing this to avoid being caught? What about the records of the car owners? Changes to the address of the drivers must be updated. How are you going to serve the summons if you cannot find them in the first place? But the government is very smart. They will "blacklist" you when you want to renew your tax. Then the syndicate got smarter. They print their own road tax discs and sell it to the people who wanted it. And then the government offered discounts so that you will pay and get you off the "blacklist" and history will repeat itself.

So, back to the question.....how does it help to reduce the fatalities and improve road traffic?

Having the Minister to board the bus to talk to a few passengers, distribute some pamplets and stickers once a year will not do la.........

 

[affan66]

I would love to see how these cameras will stop queue jumpers, traffic light beaters (mostly done by kapchais) and emergency lane users.
The majority of accidents involve cyclists. And most of these happen on federal roads, not highways. Imho, govt focusing on the wrong thing because perhaps, there is a different objective ($$ vs lives)?

 

[sixpotters]

There is a group that have done years of research on the fatality rate in Malaysia but the result was never really released to the public en masses, why? Too sensitive? As Affan mentioned, majority accident with fatalities happeneds on federal road, why? Road conditions? Poor lightings? Bad signage? Big percentage are motorcyclist, why? Riding without helmet or with helmet unfasten or worked out helmet. Riding opposite direction of traffic(including law enforcer themselves). Ignoring red lights at junctions. If $$$ is spend on fixing those, the accident rates and fatalities would have dropped dramatically. We are long way from reducing accident rate. Spending tons of $$$ to solve 15% of the problem is not efficient. My 2 cent

 

[IanDaddy]

I would love to see how these cameras will stop queue jumpers, traffic light beaters (mostly done by kapchais) and emergency lane users.
The majority of accidents involve cyclists. And most of these happen on federal roads, not highways. Imho, govt focusing on the wrong thing because perhaps, there is a different objective ($$ vs lives)?

Cannot agree more, I just hate these queue jumpers. And most of the times I see decent looking young man/woman jumping queue, sad. I don't see many beemers doing that though.

 

[JBJB]

Here's an interesting article: http://www.cbt.com.my/2012/08/17/who-are-the-worst-drivers-in-the-region/

 

[dzuljazz2001]

Here's an interesting article: http://www.cbt.com.my/2012/08/17/who-are-the-worst-drivers-in-the-region/

Imdeed it is one good artilce for all to read, more so for Authorities and the Government.

"On highways it is 100 km/h, housing areas and built up areas in the city is around 40 km/h to 50 km/h.

Speed cameras are everywhere and go too much above the speed limit, you could be jailed. However, drivers are given ample warning before they enter a speed camera zone. On some stretches, there are even 'speed checks' to remind motorists of their current speed." ...

Ita all abt creating Awareness and Enforcing the rules that has been put in place .... What we do here is different, signages are put up but you hv them "trapping" you before the "speed-check" signs itself ... :frown:

 

[JBJB]

Another article about driving in Malaysia: http://www.cbt.com.my/2012/02/08/bad-driving-in-malaysia-a-visitors-view/

 

[_M_]

Good news folks! No AES until end of the year. Apparently in their haste to make money, they forgot to certify the cameras.

That's great news.. our Johor trip wil be even more fun.. :4:

 

[naharnms]

Wah,what an exhaustive and intresting comment and feedback from all.
I believe that the speed camera should trigger at least if the car speed exceed by 30kmperhr..otherwise the memory for the camera shall be max after one mth. We sometimes need to step on the gas pedal to 120 -130 sometimes when all are driving at 110 to overtake. .

 

[Game-R]

Another article about driving in Malaysia: http://www.cbt.com.my/2012/02/08/bad-driving-in-malaysia-a-visitors-view/

This fella has gotten out in print the things I have been preaching (and lambasting) about Malaysian road behavior.