Raptor Supercharger

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RaptorSC;255527 said:
My car was the R&D white mouse for the product. REAd post #46.

force inducing a e90 with valvetronic and running only on piggyback by some local SC supplier who isnt even a experience TUNER in the first place with installation done by some stupid malaysian boleh mechanic? i pity the doink on his way to "bring more worries".

he must be one of those that believed force inducing a car or should i say a valvetronic for that matter is as easy as making a fruit rojak, where you have fruit in hand (the car), just add the sauce (the SC), stir and you have a rojak! presto, finale, no worries after that....RIGHT!!!???

aftermarket sc tuning house aka the big boys like ESS, AA and HPF, put in a considerable time and resources for tuning and roadtest on its kit before rolling it out on the road, ESS the best of the bunch goes for a minimum two year test to look into ALL variables before committing themselfs to supply the kit to the consumers with the proper fueling and mapping (NOT a low tech approach with a piggyback) for a OEM like driveability with no worries of CEL, malfunction and other associated downtime(why do you think its only recently that the e46 m3 kits starts dishing out). its a justified and worthy price for the kit you get.

this kit for 15k, is cheap, but do you wanna be another guinea pig for the company at YOUR expense? do your research before committing yourself into it.

raptor sc is only known in australia for SUPPLYING THE SUPERCHARGER and tuning however is done by another company. they handle mostly holden commodores, ford and jap imports. these cars are easily tuneable with just a simple piggyback add on so bear in mind none is ever as sophisticated as the bmw system we have.
 
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RaptorSC;255523 said:
YA ! the installer had a MBF credit card machine tat offer a installment plan for up to 24 month ( Depend on bank approval ). But onli MBF card holder la.


Bud

can you please check with your workshop what is the expected output for my M52 after SC plus torque figures. As stated earlier, I am getting 138bhp on wheels totally stock.

Thanks.
 
leforte;255528 said:
force inducing a e90 with valvetronic and running only on piggyback by some local SC supplier who isnt even a experience TUNER in the first place with installation done by some stupid malaysian boleh mechanic? i pity the doink on his way to "bring more worries".

he must be one of those that believed force inducing a car or should i say a valvetronic for that matter is as easy as making a fruit rojak, where you have fruit in hand (the car), just add the sauce (the SC), stir and you have a rojak! presto, finale, no worries after that....RIGHT!!!???

aftermarket sc tuning house aka the big boys like ESS, AA and HPF, put in a considerable time and resources for tuning and roadtest on its kit before rolling it out on the road, ESS the best of the bunch goes for a minimum two year test to look into ALL variables before committing themselfs to supply the kit to the consumers with the proper fueling and mapping (NOT a low tech approach with a piggyback) for a OEM like driveability with no worries of CEL, malfunction and other associated downtime(why do you think its only recently that the e46 m3 kits starts dishing out). its a justified and worthy price for the kit you get.

this kit for 15k, is cheap, but do you wanna be another guinea pig for the company at YOUR expense? do your research before committing yourself into it.

raptor sc is only known in australia for SUPPLYING THE SUPERCHARGER and tuning however is done by another company. they handle mostly holden commodores, ford and jap imports. these cars are easily tuneable with just a simple piggyback add on so bear in mind none is ever as sophisticated as the bmw system we have.

I got tired of replying to this thread... Well said Leforte!! :top: :top: :top:
 
leforte;255528 said:
force inducing a e90 with valvetronic and running only on piggyback by some local SC supplier who isnt even a experience TUNER in the first place with installation done by some stupid malaysian boleh mechanic? i pity the doink on his way to "bring more worries".

he must be one of those that believed force inducing a car or should i say a valvetronic for that matter is as easy as making a fruit rojak, where you have fruit in hand (the car), just add the sauce (the SC), stir and you have a rojak! presto, finale, no worries after that....RIGHT!!!???

aftermarket sc tuning house aka the big boys like ESS, AA and HPF, put in a considerable time and resources for tuning and roadtest on its kit before rolling it out on the road, ESS the best of the bunch goes for a minimum two year test to look into ALL variables before committing themselfs to supply the kit to the consumers with the proper fueling and mapping (NOT a low tech approach with a piggyback) for a OEM like driveability with no worries of CEL, malfunction and other associated downtime(why do you think its only recently that the e46 m3 kits starts dishing out). its a justified and worthy price for the kit you get.

this kit for 15k, is cheap, but do you wanna be another guinea pig for the company at YOUR expense? do your research before committing yourself into it.

raptor sc is only known in australia for SUPPLYING THE SUPERCHARGER and tuning however is done by another company. they handle mostly holden commodores, ford and jap imports. these cars are easily tuneable with just a simple piggyback add on so bear in mind none is ever as sophisticated as the bmw system we have.

I tottaly agree wif the skill of malaysian tat really doing stupid modification and they claim to be perfect. But not everyone la bro.
I doubt on the sophisticated bmw system. Don tell me tat FORD system will be easy ? how about holden ? at least 4,500cc and above.
May also check out the JDM like 350Z n skyline V35. Their system also came into the same level as bmw. even more sophisticated. Too much protection feature.
Raptor also modified for ferari. Is tat good enough ?

Piggyback is the best offer to tune the fuel, ignition, timing and map sensor ( Must be approprite 1 to counter the obd1 & 2 inteligence ECU). Cant find a remap at Malaysia. The nearest would be in Singapore. Stand alone ECU would be better but must run in manual transmission.

Even our big SC 'taiko' the A brand also provide asatronic to control the fuel. Even worst then a ordinary piggyback le.

Just a discussion, no heart feeling.
 
Opp, why not ask those who have SC'ed my car already, for advice?

People like leforte, daniel, ken330 and feizaldzul? (aramis? nah...Im still a noob)

You will be able to get non-bias, honest advice from these people?

Do remember bro, you need to get your RM20K worth, so, better ask those have have gone through it before. :)
 
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aramis;255565 said:
Opp, why not ask those who have SC'ed my car already, for advice?

People like leforte, daniel, ken330 and feizaldzul? (aramis? nah...Im still a noob)

You will be able to get non-bias, honest advice from these people?

Do remember bro, you need to get your RM20K worth, so, better ask those have have gone through it before. :)


Aramis,

Thanks. I can imagine alot of ppl have invested heaps of money and ended up regretting every second of their supercharged experience.

Has anyone beside raptor SC man have any experience with this raptor supercharger? Guess that leforte, daniel, ken 330 and feizaldzul have taken another route to forced induction...


you are right, RM 15K is alot of bread to fork out and I want to be sure that I am going to invest in a good kit.

cheers!!
 
hardware without the proper tuning is useless....u can get the best kit in the world, but without a good tuner, u're better off running stock.

the only thing i dont like about ready made kits, is that the chip/ecu supplied is tuned, based on a car thousands of miles away. its plug and play, and u get a 'safe' tune, but knowing that the kit it not performing optimally as is should, just bugs me out.
 
bmrocket;255505 said:
No la blacke90..
Does sound interesting tho but to rich for my blood bro..
Saw it mentioned at about RM20k!

Bro, now your car look so wonderful and the next thing you need to think about is upgrading on the engine performance. So this SC solution may be workable for your nice black E90 325i with full bodykit, black 19" rims and quad exhaust! I'm waiting for you yeah! hehehehe.... racun racun racun :rock:
 
David Yong;255597 said:
Bro, now your car look so wonderful and the next thing you need to think about is upgrading on the engine performance. So this SC solution may be workable for your nice black E90 325i with full bodykit, black 19" rims and quad exhaust! I'm waiting for you yeah! hehehehe.... racun racun racun :rock:

wouldnt SC void the warranty of your car?
 
aramis;255601 said:
wouldnt SC void the warranty of your car?

Warranty is not an issue for our bro bmrocket's car. His ride was born in year 2005. So..... it's already way pass the warranty period :rock:
 
aramis;255601 said:
wouldnt SC void the warranty of your car?

if engine goes boom, then remove s/c and install stock parts. :rolleyes: :wink: beauty of plug n play eh? btw, i'm not condoning devious behaviour like this :rock:
 
aramis;255565 said:
Opp, why not ask those who have SC'ed my car already, for advice?

People like leforte, daniel, ken330 and feizaldzul? (aramis? nah...Im still a noob)

You will be able to get non-bias, honest advice from these people?

Do remember bro, you need to get your RM20K worth, so, better ask those have have gone through it before. :)


okay, i shouldn't be poking my head into this...

SC is a complicated add on that increases your engine output..

it's not just plug and play as simple as said.

i have seen many cars that has SC that the owners grin from ear to ear.:rock:

and

i have seen many cars that has the SC blown to bits and blown their engines :thefinger:

as said, i m in the midst of installing the SC to my car, not the Raptor type but a Vortec V2SQ one that pushes out 400 at the engine. beat that:rolleyes:

installing the SC is simple not so complex, just that below 6psi, you dun need a intercooler.. cos of pressure drop..

only thing is the tunning of the SC to achive the perfect AR ratio to achive the power gains that the SC can churn out.

so coming back to the Raptor, have you guys checked out the brand from Australia ? the land downunder is famous for V8's superchargers that raptor is one of the famous brands... even fixing a unknown brand like Dinan only available in the states not in europe neither here will cause you some worry...:cool:

if the path fo SC'ing is it, then go for it..

by the way, have you heard of a e30M50B25 with a Raptor SC runing around with 190whp around town ? used everyday ?
this power is similar to my S50 at my 190whp:burnout:

so how opp ?
 
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pussy;255820 said:
okay, i shouldn't be poking my head into this...

SC is a complicated add on that increases your engine output..

it's not just plug and play as simple as said.

i have seen many cars that has SC that the owners grin from ear to ear.:rock:

and

i have seen many cars that has the SC blown to bits and blown their engines :thefinger:

as said, i m in the midst of installing the SC to my car, not the Raptor type but a Vortec V2SQ one that pushes out 400 at the engine. beat that:rolleyes:

installing the SC is simple not so complex, just that below 6psi, you dun need a intercooler.. cos of pressure drop..

only thing is the tunning of the SC to achive the perfect AR ratio to achive the power gains that the SC can churn out.

so coming back to the Raptor, have you guys checked out the brand from Australia ? the land downunder is famous for V8's superchargers that raptor is one of the famous brands... even fixing a unknown brand like Dinan only available in the states not in europe neither here will cause you some worry...:cool:

if the path fo SC'ing is it, then go for it..

by the way, have you heard of a e30M50B25 with a Raptor SC runing around with 190whp around town ? used everyday ?
this power is similar to my S50 at my 190whp:burnout:

so how opp ?

Bud

I dont dispute the gains of forced induction. Its the only quick way to massive bhp and torgue gains. My experience to supercharges is very very limited and what I have picked up is limited only to this forum. Havent had the time to actually go out to talk to mech's or other so called experts.

I totally agree that regardless if it is a SC, turbocharger or electric supercharger for that matter, tuning is the most important thing . Getting the optimum a/f ratio,ignition is a balancing act dependent also on the level of mods to the car.

This raptor kit seems the most attractive at the moment due to the price but alittle concerned about the tuning bit. Also, at 10.5 to 1 compression for my stock engine, reliability is also at the back of my mind...

So you are looking at 400 whp?
what engine are you running on?
Who is your installer?
 
pussy....true, tuning is most critical. which is the thing most lacking in m'sia. we can always go down to singapore, or get a chip/software upgrade from the states. or go full standalone, but u're CEL will be like a x'mas tree and constant 'boing' 'boing' sound :)

but best with i/cooler, coz our weather is so freaking hot. luckily in m'sia, we cna find coolers in all shapes n sizes, and at dirt cheap prices.

400 to engine? hmmm...powerdyne might have something to say to that. dun action ar... :p

opp....10:5 comp is actually nice for FI low boosts. u dun get lag, and power is always on tap. but tuning is impt, otherwise might knock to hell or ka-ba-boom (cue cartoon sound) but engine condition is also impt....

blackhowling.....babysix no s/c la....u have to use surbo or broquet. :D :D or just remote turbo a GT40R la. :O
 
aramis;255452 said:
Opp, just to advice you as a fellow member, I suggest you do a bid of read up from this forum to understand the headaches and also the orgasmic feeling of Supercharging. Some did it very easily, some not, some gave up and sold their SCs and etc....

If you are planning to SC your car, do prepare for this. Once you are ready, then enjoy the journey to adding extra ommphhh to your car....

but remember though....you aint gonna out-run those JDMs...hee hee..... ;)

Aarmis u said daniel and me ah, we just go diff. routes hehe... he went turbo and i went stock. Who know i might be back with AA sc... hehe

My take dunt be guinea pig to Sc, it will kill u. Better go for that has been tested and proven worldwide. For instance ASA, even alpina is using them. Tuning wise, i strongly urge to send back ur dme and let them do the remapping be it AA, Technik and ESS.

Outrun JDM, very hard lei... Diff. league...
 
Btw nicmund, i thought u told me u gonna take on a 1000 bhp GTR with ur car?

So hows is it goin?
 
keN330;255930 said:
Btw nicmund, i thought u told me u gonna take on a 1000 bhp GTR with ur car?

So hows is it goin?

This gonna be interesting! :cool:
 
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