For all the rusting classics out there

[skar19]

Check this out....it my be a solution for our rust buckets!Rust ProtectionThe pricePlease also read the FAQ, i think a gallon will cover the whole car more or less. wat you guys think worth it?

 

[et5]

TQ Skar!

 

[ichiwan2]

Note that it is rust prevention - it does not cure rust. U will still need to clean off all rust and use the metal prep chemical.

Cheaper alternative - have a look at Ace Hardware pressurised can paints section - you will find primers that claim to prevent rust also - about RM20 per can. Alternatively, get the Hammerite paint which can be painted directly on to the rust.

BTW, if any of u have holes in the body work, discovered that I can use the kneaded epoxy compound (from a plastic cylinder) that becomes as hard as steel within 10 minutes. Found it in hardware store too. (this is not the liquid two part epoxy mix) Check it out.

 

[kevster30]

ichiwan,

Great suggestions! I have used both with great results! Fibreglass patching kits work very well too.

The most important poin as you have pointed out is to remove as much of the existing rust as possible before you proceed.

 

[tyke]

wow!u guys r great man!
this will come in handy for us DIY fans!
many thanx again skar and ichiwan

rgds,
-brad-

 

[2cents]

For Hammerite, I think u haff to look for da rite color to match. Ther is another rust denaturing product from PYE (locally packaged) dat does da same for approx. RM20.
So if u cannot find Hammerite, u can oso try PYE. Dries in 20-30mins.

 

[ichiwan2]

I used the PYE liquid too - it converts the iron oxide - i.e., the red coloured rust remnant that you cannot get rid of through normal wire brushing into a hard solid surface - good stuff. It is basically a white liquid that you put on the rust to stop further rusting - seems to work well. Apply with brush.

Don't think u can get the Hammerite colour to match your paint. Use it as a rust converter/primer, an then paint over it.

 

[Mikeong]

Originally posted by ichiwan2@Nov 17 2005, 08:28 AM
I used the PYE liquid too - it converts the iron oxide - i.e., the red coloured rust remnant that you cannot get rid of through normal wire brushing into a hard solid surface - good stuff. It is basically a white liquid that you put on the rust to stop further rusting - seems to work well. Apply with brush.

Don't think u can get the Hammerite colour to match your paint. Use it as a rust converter/primer, an then paint over it.

After using the PYE use a can of cold galavnise spray and spray onto the area.

 

[et5]

TQ for info
Sifus ichiwan2, 2sen and Kev!

 

[ludavic]

Originally posted by Mikeong+Nov 18 2005, 08:53 AM-->QUOTE (Mikeong @ Nov 18 2005, 08:53 AM)

 

[elwine30]

ichiwan,

same here. rust eater. Good stuff. My car had rust on the spot welding points near my doors. One spot even created a hole.

Ludavic,

if you are have spots of rust or rather surface rust, you can use what the guys here has recommeded. However, if you have internal rust i.e floor pan, undercarriage,beneath yr roof,under yr seat. Send it to the painter to strip yr car for you, reweld every single point, galvanised yr whole car, then slowly put it back into pieces. Then, you have a brand new car.

 

[ludavic]

What are the main rust areas in the e30 we should be watching out for? besides the battery area and the left & right compartment holes in the boot.

elwin - galvanise whole car? i tot galvanisation can be done only at the production line... :huh: but tnks for ur advise taken in good faith haha.

 

[elwine30]

yup, u r right. not galvanised the whole body but to treat all possible rust area.

 

[kevster30]

Galvanising involves electro-plating.............enuf said!

I have said this many times before on this forum, THERE IS NO CURE FOR RUST!

You have only two alternatives:

1) Remove the affected panel and replace it
2) Treat it chemically to slow/retard the rust process(oxidisation) as this is what all those brush on solutions actually do.....it is a scientific inpossibility to just 'brush' away rust with chemicals. All they do is provide an air tight barrier to inhibit the oxidisation process but it will still continue, albeit a lot slower.

For those of you DIY-heads who still persist, here's the way to go:

1) Sand down/ sand-blast the affected area till you see metal again(shiny n bright)

2) Use a rust inhibiting primer ( Hammerite is a good recommendation)

3) Paint or underseal.

If you do not remove the ferum oxide(rust) completely, you will just be masking the problem.