e36 got Vinos?

[evo5755]

If you are interested.. I found a nice E36 325i - Call 0126802525

Whats good about this car

325i UK Spec. Year 1992 Regis 1998
Sunroof, Original Condition, Well Kept and Clean interior
4 new Mich 16" tyres with Ori BMW Alloy RIMS
5 Speedgearbox - overhauled 8 months ago
Steering - changed 2 years ago

Whats need to repair to bring it to Tip Top condition (estimate RM3000)
1.Cylinder head cover gasket to replace as leaks
2.Power steering pressure hose to replace
3.Brake system need full service
4.Oil sump gasket to replace as leaks
5.Flywheel oil seal to replace
6. Air cond belt and bearing to replace
7. Gear lever to refit
8. Torque converter oil seal to change

Why I dont buy:
1. Cash buy only (RM37K is quite expensive for me) Considering 1992 made
2. Non vanos engine... So higher fuel consum.. 13-18ltr per 100KM urban mix highway. Also power is about WAJA 1.8 feel - Prefer with vanos as tested one..feel 30% more power from 4000rpm to 6000rpm ...
3. Cant resell at RM30K after 2 years.. as I need to sell it when finish my contract here in KL. 1992 might fall below RM25K then. But if CKD 1994.. value will be RM30K for sure... if you jaga it well la. I think...

Why you should buy;

Its one of the best E36 I have viewed and tested drive. Also the check is from Sapura Auto

non Vanos 325i, having waja 1.8 feel/speed? Sure about that?

 

[anaksarawak]

non Vanos 325i, having waja 1.8 feel/speed? Sure about that?

Two of the 325i year 1992 & 1993 I have driven offer the same power feel from start to 60KM but after 60KM to 120KM BMW will be more superior by just a little.. Car ride, comfort and handling will always be BMW premium.. Waja is far behind.

 

[LCP]

Actually, the non-Vanos M50 engine is very revvy, with peak torque coming in at a highish 4700rpm, so, in order to make full use of the M50, you hafta keep the revs high. BMW is a proponent of short stroke engine, and the M50B25 is no exception. The typical characteristics of a short stroke engine is very high peak rpm for maximum torque. This is also why they improved it later to become the single Vanos M50B25TU so the engine can have a wider torque range, the max torque rpm was quoted at 4200rpm now. Of course BMW did not stop there. The low speed driveability of the engine is still not as nice, so the M52B28 was born... nothing beats a large displacement engine when it comes to torque.

As for the Renault-engined Waja 1.8, that is a long stroke engine if I'm not mistaken (or maybe at least a square bore x stroke), a long stroke engine has a lower rpm for maximum torque, making the engine more flexible for day-to-day city driving. But when it comes to maximum power, that's another story altogether. The max power of the Renault-engine Waja 1.8 is about the same as the M43B18 found in E36 318i. So, the Waja 1.8 should run out of steam pretty early, although it will be strong in the low revs... the engine also has variable valve timing stuff also, fyi.

Btw, for the Mitsubishi-engined Waja 1.6 (the common ones before the Campro engine), this is an example of a long stroke engine, the peak torque comes in at 2750rpm, that's low, although the amount of torque matches typical 1.6. Max power is approx 100hp of so only.

 

[pussy]

If you are interested.. I found a nice E36 325i - Call 0126802525

Whats good about this car

325i UK Spec. Year 1992 Regis 1998
Sunroof, Original Condition, Well Kept and Clean interior
4 new Mich 16" tyres with Ori BMW Alloy RIMS
5 Speedgearbox - overhauled 8 months ago
Steering - changed 2 years ago

Whats need to repair to bring it to Tip Top condition (estimate RM3000)
1.Cylinder head cover gasket to replace as leaks
2.Power steering pressure hose to replace
3.Brake system need full service
4.Oil sump gasket to replace as leaks
5.Flywheel oil seal to replace
6. Air cond belt and bearing to replace
7. Gear lever to refit
8. Torque converter oil seal to change

Why I dont buy:
1. Cash buy only (RM37K is quite expensive for me) Considering 1992 made
2. Non vanos engine... So higher fuel consum.. 13-18ltr per 100KM urban mix highway. Also power is about WAJA 1.8 feel - Prefer with vanos as tested one..feel 30% more power from 4000rpm to 6000rpm ...
3. Cant resell at RM30K after 2 years.. as I need to sell it when finish my contract here in KL. 1992 might fall below RM25K then. But if CKD 1994.. value will be RM30K for sure... if you jaga it well la. I think...

Why you should buy;

Its one of the best E36 I have viewed and tested drive. Also the check is from Sapura Auto

hi Geofferylee,

i beg to differ that the M50 non-vanos is not powerful..where did you do your findings ?
if my non-vanos engine can't be ovetaken by a e46 325M54 car at 240km/h.. then why is this engine is equalavant to a CRAP waja 1.8L..even a 36 M50B25TU can tail-gate me..
fuel cumsumption ? mine gave me a 450kms to a 50L fill up..

did you know that the non-vanos engine is much-much better than a vanos when it's in a manual mode...
does a non-vanos and a vanos power or torque that you are refering to of a difference of 30% ? please correct that statement.. the power is the same, the non-vanos engine is much aggresive, powerful and higher cams..in-fact, they have the USS50 cams inside., the vanos uses a lower cam..

since you have yet to puchase your car since january, i suggest that you buy one e36 M50B25TU and drive it...then u will know how a M50 engines works..

no-offence, but this my two cents to correct your statement, others might take your statements seriously and getting mislaid..

regards.

peace.

 

[JoeYazid]

hi Geofferylee,

i beg to differ that the M50 non-vanos is not powerful..where did you do your findings ?
if my non-vanos engine can't be ovetaken by a e46 325M54 car at 240km/h.. .

I eye-witness this together with 20 others club member ..... and now he is challenging the same guy whom changed to e39 M54B30 after the incident.

 

[edward]

hey ,

thanks for the info about the e36 325, but i think i'm also looking at the newer car becoz planning to keep it a while. can pass on the the wife and then upgrade some more or change to a coupe. HeHeHe!

need at least a 4door car in the family. now both our car is 2 doors so very susah lah !

ed

 

[edward]

hey goeffreylee,
if you come across some other e36 325 / 328 let me know. thanks. been also keeping an eye out for about 6 months already but didn't look very hard though. thinking of to start the search in Ipoh also. small town = low milelage & low ware and tear.
i'll also let u know of i come across any nice ones

ed

 

[Vanquish]

Geoff dude,

Let's compare an apple to an apple, shall we ? I had a Waja 1.8 for almost 2 years and believe me when I say that the Renault F4P engine nothing to shout about. Sure, it has more electronics and techo-gadgets onboard with drive-by-wire and etc but it's not even in the same class as the M50 straight-six for very obvious reasons. It loses flat out in power, torque, capacity on paper and I dare say even driveability/tractability in real life situations. VANOS or otherwise is not the deciding factor - please get your facts in order before shooting off claims as above.

And yes, there are many reasons for not buying a UDM at the end of the day if you ask me - depreciation la, an arm and leg cost for running cost & upkeep la, high fuel consumption and what nots! Bottom line is, get one, live with it and understand why some of us here still swear by our 10-15 year ol junks todate. Otherwise, take the safe way home and settle for a Japanese, Korean or Malaysian saloon for comfort. No offence!

Regards,
VaN.

 

[Vanquish]

I eye-witness this together with 20 others club member ..... and now he is challenging the same guy whom changed to e39 M54B30 after the incident.

Muahahahaha !!! Pussy Power !!!

The guy still wants a REMATCH aah, Abang Yazid ? When and where .... please keep us JB folks posted, yeah !!!

Cheers,
VaN.

 

[ALBundy]

3. Cant resell at RM30K after 2 years.. as I need to sell it when finish my contract here in KL. 1992 might fall below RM25K then. But if CKD 1994.. value will be RM30K for sure... if you jaga it well la. I think...

Geoff, motorbike should fit into your requirement, BMW bikes are cool.

Car prices will go down as the pressure on the govt to further reduce the taxes in compliance with AFTA is getting greater...its inevitable as we get closer to 2008. But motorbikes are exempted...so it will hold its prices better.

 

[Vanquish]

Geoff, motorbike should fit into your requirement, BMW bikes are cool.]

Mean bugger, you!

Eh, atleast by that time your car and mine wud be worth just enough for us to use them as trade-in downpayment for a BMW bike, eh ? Michelle Yeoh look-alikes sold separately !!!

Cheers,
VaN.

 

[ALBundy]

Geoff, motorbike should fit into your requirement, BMW bikes are cool.]

Mean bugger, you!

Eh, atleast by that time your car and mine wud be worth just enough for us to use them as trade-in downpayment for a BMW bike, eh ? Michelle Yeoh look-alikes sold separately !!!

Cheers,
VaN.

I have always wanted a BMW bike.... but they are not cheap leh.....

THe newer BMW bikes are awesome....electronic suspension adjustment, that will take into account of your weight! Amazing stuff... And it holds it value pretty well, definitely fit Geoffrey's needs.

 

[Zoggee]

Geoff....

There's more then meets the eye.

There are two generation of BMW drivers. Some oldskool. I assumed youare the newschool...which love to hear that BMW got 50/50 weight distribution,ASC, Vanos...Double Vanos,alloy short blocks and etc..etc..bla..bla..bla....

We oldskool guy la...herd of electronics...walaueh!! scary wor.

But then again..whats the use of all the torque and power if you dun realy learn how to drive it. Do you think you know...well , like I say...there's more then meets the eyes. Ask Bundy and Kevster la...they are qualified enuff.

 

[anaksarawak]

Sorry folks if I have make the wrong statement about the non vanos 325.. I said its from my own personal driving experience of both 325 vanos and none.

Anyway, I guess ..I should keep quiet for now.. till I found my ride..

Many thanks for all who helped.. Cheerio!!

 

[pussy]

geofferylee.. we are not hard on anyone or on you.. we just dun want you to get the wrong info, feedback..

your search for the perfect e36 is impossible, then may i suggest that you get a e36 year 95 model last before the 328 was launch... look for a good body with a body kit..dun be fuzzy...you will never get a perfect car..

regards.

 

[Zoggee]

Sorry folks if I have make the wrong statement about the non vanos 325.. I said its from my own personal driving experience of both 325 vanos and none.

Anyway, I guess ..I should keep quiet for now.. till I found my ride..

Many thanks for all who helped.. Cheerio!!

he..hee....

why...???as I say. There are more then meet the eyes. No worries..we are always like this wan...

 

[Lee36328]

No Vinos.

Got Vanos.

V*g*n* Attraction N Orgasm System.

Some say, one more part to fail, expensive to fix

Some say, when it works, its fabulous. Gives you another torque curve effectively when the cam timing shifts. You can feel a surge at around 3k rpm (or slightly below, depending on load.)

 

[flash]

No Vinos.

Got Vanos.

V*g*n* Attraction N Orgasm System.

Some say, one more part to fail, expensive to fix

Some say, when it works, its fabulous. Gives you another torque curve effectively when the cam timing shifts. You can feel a surge at around 3k rpm (or slightly below, depending on load.)

In short, when VANOS works, it gives you one hell of an "orgasm". Miss my ex-Babe because of that experience and it brings a smile to my face. But it is definitely one more complicated part to fail and cost moolahs to fix.

 

[Drivenz@330]

Do you guys really need those power? Shouldnt it be a smooth ride BMW drivers looking for? Shouldn't you buy a Sport car if you want to go fast?

Just wonder?

 

[Zoggee]

Do you guys really need those power? Shouldnt it be a smooth ride BMW drivers looking for? Shouldn't you buy a Sport car if you want to go fast?

Just wonder?

yeap....I woke up and saving up for a sports car liao. The first sports car I'm gonna buy is the die cast model of Porsche. Then in 15years time..the real thing. yeah!!!!!