Dead Master key E36 328i

[mike3]

Had a dead master key where the key cannot start or turn the engine.Engine started with the spare key.AB have indicated a completely new key and chip is required at ~RM 900.Is there any outside party that can "copy" the code from the spare key to a new chip and put this in the master key?Help needed as i cannot see the value of RM900 for a new key.thanks.

 

[SarJeePekAi]

Dunno if this will help but try calling STEVAN @ 019 3223 128 as he may be able to advise on the key matter.
btw he's in Penang. GooLuck2U!

 

[jarance]

Had a dead master key where the key cannot start or turn the engine.

Engine started with the spare key.

AB have indicated a completely new key and chip is required at ~RM 900.

Is there any outside party that can "copy" the code from the spare key to a new chip and put this in the master key?

Help needed as i cannot see the value of RM900 for a new key.

thanks.

1) Your master cannot turn the ignition lock

2) or can turn the ignition, crank engine but cannot start the car?

If problem #1 may cost you less than RM100 with a bit of DIY.

If problem #2, no choice have to get key from AB.

For E46, key from ebay are cheaper and can be programm by following certain procedure.

 

[mike3]

1) Your master cannot turn the ignition lock

2) or can turn the ignition, crank engine but cannot start the car?

If problem #1 may cost you less than RM100 with a bit of DIY.

If problem #2, no choice have to get key from AB.

For E46, key from ebay are cheaper and can be programm by following certain procedure.

tks for response, problem more than (2), ie., key can turn ignition, lights come on, but no cranking or any response, like dead battery, but all lights ok.

spare key no problem, start immediately.

Penang too far, am in PJ.

 

[jarance]

tks for response, problem more than (2), ie., key can turn ignition, lights come on, but no cranking or any response, like dead battery, but all lights ok.

spare key no problem, start immediately.

Penang too far, am in PJ.

OK, since you can turn the ignition and the light come on, then your transponder might be faulty.

To confirm the transponder problem, use your faulty master and insert it in the ignition.
Use your spare key that can start the car and place it as near the ignition lock. Basically the transponder work by proximity. If you can start your engine then your transponder is faulty.

I am not sure whether you can reprogram the transponder for E36.

 

[mike3]

OK, since you can turn the ignition and the light come on, then your transponder might be faulty.

To confirm the transponder problem, use your faulty master and insert it in the ignition.
Use your spare key that can start the car and place it as near the ignition lock. Basically the transponder work by proximity. If you can start your engine then your transponder is faulty.

I am not sure whether you can reprogram the transponder for E36.

tried that, placed the spare key next to the master (by proximity, v close), tried to start, also no response from master key..

 

[naharnms]

Had a dead master key where the key cannot start or turn the engine.

Engine started with the spare key.

AB have indicated a completely new key and chip is required at ~RM 900.

Is there any outside party that can "copy" the code from the spare key to a new chip and put this in the master key?

Help needed as i cannot see the value of RM900 for a new key.

thanks.

Lucky for you to have a spare key...!
In my case, since my car was re-cond (e39), there is no spare key, even the alarm also does not function even after changing the battery.
There is one shop (repair/duplicate key, cobbler etc..) which i asked recently, he said he could duplicate the key for RM400. And if we want to use back the alarm, he can 'chip; it back for another rm400,so total is rm800, which is not far from your rm900 price.
I thought of doing it(since no need to go to AB/German), but need to ask you guys punya opinion.. Is it true and reliable..?

Thanks

 

[mike3]

dead master key

yes, read in the LowYat forum somebody offering this service, but this person seems to have closed shop.

went to shop, found it have been closed and shuttered.

no more sources.

Funny that the spare key_close to master key method did not work as i have read that some others have removed the transponder chip and superglued this near the ign key hole to save the trouble of going to AB for a new key.

I do not want to go this route for security reasons.

 

[naharnms]

Yup, you are right for security reasons..
And maybe no guarantee whether it will haywire/screw up the ignition and immobiliser system..

 

[mango86]

i also think to get a spare key for my car since i dun hav a spare key, any shop can make it beside AB?

 

[mike3]

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i also think to get a spare key for my car since i dun hav a spare key, any shop can make it beside AB?

have tried to find, no result.

Maybe better to get from AB, can be trusted. Others MAY keep a copy of the code, program another transponder. next thing, car gone.

 

[JOKER]

tks for response, problem more than (2), ie., key can turn ignition, lights come on, but no cranking or any response, like dead battery, but all lights ok.

spare key no problem, start immediately.

Penang too far, am in PJ.

wow, that was some similiar problem as mine last year,
like dead battery?, but mine was both key cannot start, and i
disconnect the battery and wait for 1-2 hour before it can be start.

THEY ARE USING EMP device to BEAM somebody at distant which
maybe the high beamming wave crush trough your key which you put in wallet??

but after i investigate and solve the the problem myself, the key and EWS2 was remain
unchanged and untouch, fully function.
I Tell you what i had encountered, i drive my car last time with those error/bug removed,
i park near shoplot (night), while i am monitoring it nearby. suddenly a traffic police car was driving by with full police and RELA inside the car, i saw one RELA pop out his head
just like looking for something?? or ayam/chicky on street?, then after i finished my meal, i went back to my car, it just cannot start as what you mention THERE, the key can turn ignition to switch on with all light OKAY, but no cranking on engine, :stupid:,
you know what i did this TIME, i only reset the EWS-2 module with diagnostic software
on my LAPTOP, the car start immediatly with the same key,

that is serious POWER ABUSIVE by authority to BEAM somebody and car with those
handheld EMP device, that device can kill someone silently, it will develope cancer in somebody if expose too much., that stuff also can damage AIRCRAFT/HELICOPTER
electronic and kill everybody onboard. those were serious KILLER/ASSASIN..

and what i ever told was happend!!
just refer to newspaper on what i had told,
mexico jail break,H1N1, N.K nuke,
iraqis captured by malaysian navy,
chinese sub collided with US sensor probe,
france Airbus electronic damage KIA,
indonesian model and malaysian prince,

those thing i mentioned in the IKE previously was serious bug
that can kill/damage EGS/DME/OBCV/IKE itself

it will damage the DME
where the DME will fail to control on/off A/C compressor,
all the A/C component was well functionning,
you will need to replace the DME unit or
HACK the A/C system to by-pass DME controller (SMART and economy choice)
that may lift-up horse power too?

my car A/C system suffer failure to activate A/C compressor, before i discover and
remove the bug. the blower blow hot air which the A/C relay did not activated from the
controller in DME, it was not pressure switch fault or relay fault. for now the my DME was permenatly damaged and fail to activate A/C compressor relay even those bug was clear (maybe some other bug?), the damage will slowly destroy the rest of electronic.
but the car can start and run with nodoubt, engine run smooth and powerful,
no airbag light, check control ok in BCV, all central lock working, IHKA working with
powerful wind blowing, EWS2 okay starting all the time.

 

[JOKER]

anybody know which electonic component in DME siemens MS41.0 (OBD 1 version)?
to be replace, rather than the whole DME unit. the problem
with the A/C compressor relay did not activated from the DME 's solid state controller,
i had track those suspected error and it likely link to the component which i circle it
with red circle. i don't know what it call, it could be high current multi transistor IC?
anybody know where to get that Intergrated Circuit (IC)?

other choice, i can hack/upgrade the A/C system to by-pass the DME unit.
it was manmake vandalism, purposely to damaging our property.
FXCK it cheaply, :stupid:

 

[VKS]

Here we go again..:43:

Anyway welcome back Joker..:34:

 

[JOKER]

use your brain to FXCK them, do not rely on your MONEY completely.
that is very stupid and bastard to waste money for stealth manmake vandalism,
they were smart to inflict financial damaging on us in stealth way.
use the smart way to fxck them..

 

[JOKER]

damn shit bastard, :34:
i am investigating those error neither it was just simple
program HACKED or error, or hardware damaged?,
i did not have some other advanced electronic diagnosis machine,
nobody know about it. it going to take alot of time, i am solving it ALONE.

ALONE with nobody to share/help... :34:
and just plenty buck was SUCKED-up from me
most of people fix his BMW with thausand cash$$$$???,
i going to fXck it cheap

the e36 A/C was insufficient cold due to the A/C did not control by IHKA alone. It link to DME and controlled by engine RPM/Temperature.
(with gas pressure okay, all component good)
i need to hack it to by-pass DME,it may free up plenty HP?
outcome with A/C system run in full cold ??
but it must be done carefully or the A/C will blow-up.

 

[Hellraiser]

welcome back rastabimmer...er...i mean joker...

 

[JOKER]

this afternoon i just did (SECRET), the A/c relay activated by DME controller,
the A/C system back to normal. the ZKE IV unit finally access by my portable laptop diagnosis system for the FIRST TIME. before that, it only can be access by BMW GT1 unit from dealer., that was big improvement. all total electronic module accessed by my laptop, except BCV and IKE unit., both unit only can be access by the dealer 's BMW GT1 system.

everything was done without any part replaced. :34:

however the A/C was insufficient cold, but very cold at the external gas PIPE.
it could be the old blower resistor pack which preduce excessive heat and need to be replace with latest upgraded version..??

that was nasty nightmare,
trouble-shoot just like building an atomic bomb :34:
fix the car who was not bmw mechanic or technician,
maybe those bmw mech also did not know how to trouble-shoot it,
they usually encourage user to replace the whole part....:34:

 

[cyberburnner]

Dead Master key E36 328i

mike,
i'm driving same car like you. is ur key looks like tis? http://www.newpages2u.com/products.php?id=4243&lang=&cat=Transponder Key

the last time i quoted frm AB Sg Besi was RM380 for complete key duplicate (with chip). outside locksmiths charge about RM500. there is one in Kg pandan & 1 in Kajang. i heard they also source the keys frm AB but uses after mkt gadgets to program the transponder chip.

 

[Vincent Hor]

Anybody knows if this will work? Let say we remove the chip from the original key and stick it to the ignition starter inside the car. Can we then make a duplicate key and start the car? That way it will be very much cheaper.