cannot solve wheel base vibration, e46

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i have this stubborn problem of vibration between speed of 80-100kmh. been to quite a few mechanics but they couldn't solve my problemthings that i have changed/repaired1. lower arm2. all suspension and bush3. long shaft4. on/off wheel balancing, chamber5. all brake disc and brakes6. all new tyresplease advice, thanks.
 
babie said:
i have this stubborn problem of vibration between speed of 80-100kmh. been to quite a few mechanics but they couldn't solve my problem

things that i have changed/repaired
1. lower arm
2. all suspension and bush
3. long shaft
4. on/off wheel balancing, chamber
5. all brake disc and brakes
6. all new tyres

please advice, thanks.

Looks like you've done pretty much everything. I'm no expert but it looks like you may have run out of options. But however you may want to go to Tyrezone at Taman Mayang and ask them to do "road force (or something like that, I don't remember exact the terminology)" balancing on your tires. That may help. Good luck.
 
hmmm.... y your problem sound so familiar one ah....
0-80 no vibs
100 above no vibs .. rite?

my 2 sens...

check:
- long shaft balancing
- long shaft u-joints/couplings
- rear half shafts splines and bearings
- lastly, FD and Tranny

alternatively check... (maybe case...)
- engine mounts
- shocks bushing and tightening )
- balancing of tires (not on the wheel but properly done) and alignment
- tires screwed on tight?
- rim conditions (highly unlikely, but maybe)
- steering rack balljoints and bushings
 
Long shaft coupling
Long shaft bush (Guibo)
Long shaft balance
 
tumbleweed said:
"road force (or something like that, I don't remember exact the terminology)" balancing on your tires. That may help. Good luck.
do you mean static running test? running on turning barrels or something?

thanks for all the input here.
 
sesat88 said:
hmmm.... y your problem sound so familiar one ah....
0-80 no vibs
100 above no vibs .. rite?
exactly, you had it before?

my 2 sens...

check:
- long shaft balancing
- long shaft u-joints/couplings
- rear half shafts splines and bearings
- lastly, FD and Tranny

alternatively check... (maybe case...)
- engine mounts
- shocks bushing and tightening )
- balancing of tires (not on the wheel but properly done) and alignment
- tires screwed on tight?
- rim conditions (highly unlikely, but maybe)
- steering rack balljoints and bushings
please recommend a mechanic that can do long shaft balancing or good at wheel base problem thingy. thanks
 
I used to have but not on a Beamer. We call it "death wobble" in our terms as it is deadly as it vibs till the whole car is uncontrollable. Lotsa theories.. but normally it is wind up energy that the car encountered due to something that is not balanced/loosed and not channel out properly hence lasses out into the vehicle. How I solved it, serviced the steering rack and lower arms after cracking my head for some time.

no la... i dun haf this problem at the moment but i know someone has but not on a bmw...also got change almost the same stuff that you changed but still not sorted out yet. I think she will be taking it to the workshop soon.

Regarding the recommendation on the mechanic, go to the List of Good Workshop / Workshop threads in this forum that we go to. You should get an idea. However it is wise to let the mechanic check it out first before u jump to any conclusion as my 2 sens may be way off target ;)
 
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Just need to share with you,..

Have u check at that point..( blue color ) . That part (donno the name) coupling to long shalf. Inside there have a bearing. Any free play u feel there? That part can test and no need to open long shalf.

If feel free play at that point, ask mechanic to open and check.

Previously my car vibration also. but early problem it start sometime vibrate and sometime not. after it come worst, after 60km/h it will start vibrate. Check , than bearing hancur... MAYBE your bearing newly start to make a problem.


TQ
 
thanks for all your great effort to help. i have changed item no.1 and the centre u joint and the rear axial rubber joint, but didn't help. after that i took to a workshop in old klang road and they put in a second hand long shaft (but they adviced me to keep the old centre u joint so not to interfere with the long shaft balancing), the vibration is lessen but is still felt...sigh...could it be a gearbox problem, as my gearbox is somewhat screwed up, the error sign pop up a few times when i didn't warm up the car nicely in the morning...
 
babie said:
....could it be a gearbox problem, as my gearbox is somewhat screwed up, the error sign pop up a few times when i didn't warm up the car nicely in the morning...

error sign... never say from beginning... heehee... check the solenoids lar... that's ought to be the case... i think one or two is saying sayonara already ... ;)
 
babie said:
do you mean static running test? running on turning barrels or something?

thanks for all the input here.

No. What they do is actually try to find the "right" position between the rim and the tire. They will do normal balancing of your wheel and from the machine readout they will rotate the rim to a certain position to match the tire. It's kinda hard to explain but I hope you will solve your problem. You may want to drop by there and ask them to explain it to you. Gd luck
 
sesat88 said:
check the solenoids lar
solenoids for the gearbox, any specific mechanic to recommend? i went through the 10over pages in the "good mechanics" thread, don't remember any recommendation for solenoids. thanks.
 
tumbleweed said:
No. What they do is actually try to find the "right" position between the rim and the tire. They will do normal balancing of your wheel and from the machine readout they will rotate the rim to a certain position to match the tire. It's kinda hard to explain but I hope you will solve your problem. You may want to drop by there and ask them to explain it to you. Gd luck
i get what you mean, i did it in one of the shop in old klang road, the housing garden behind heritage.

i notice that the vibration is most noticable when i apply throttle (during 80-100kmh), or when rpm is above idle. i did 160kmh yesterday, quite smooth at that speed.
 
babie said:
solenoids for the gearbox, any specific mechanic to recommend? i went through the 10over pages in the "good mechanics" thread, don't remember any recommendation for solenoids. thanks.

Hi...

Please be carefull during send to workshop for test the solenoid. Mechanic will open gearbox oil sum and take off the solenoid to test. The test is using battery power connect to solenoid. Normally they will use loose cable from battery to solenoid +ve and -ve. During the test make sure u at shop and see how they test it. Takut masa test tershort and it will damage the solenoid. Elok2 tak rosak jadi rosak.

For me i will prefer during repairing the car, we at shop to see how they repair and test it. Just to make suke the thing done properly. Becoz the gearbox part is very sensitive part...rosak kalu banyak kuar wang. small solenoid is about 165 and the big one is about 385.

Just to share wit u.

TQ
 
sesat88 said:
babie.. you have pm
got it. will try and post the result here...solenoid and all, this is getting too technical for me :D

thanks all, for your kind advice. my first thread here and glad to learn there are so many kind souls in here.
 
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