BMW have launched four new diesel models here in Malaysia

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BMW have launched four new diesel models here in Malaysia, complementing the existing X5 xDrive30d model. The four are the BMW 320d Sports, the BMW 520d Sports Edition, the BMW X3 xDrive20d Executive Edition and finally the flagship BMW 730Ld, which also so happens to be the cheapest F02 7-Series available in Malaysia.
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The BMW 320d Sports is only RM7,000 more expensive than the BMW 320i. It’s also the 3-Series Sedan with the most torque, save for the 335i Individual and the M3 Sedan. With 177hp and 350Nm, the 320d outshines the 320i’s 156hp and 200Nm of torque. Thanks to that 0 to 100km/h acceleration time is down from the 320i’s 9.8 seconds to 8 seconds in the 320d Sports. Nearly 2 seconds is a big difference in acceleration feel.
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The Sports suffix means that it has the full M-Sport kit – bodykit, seats, aluminium interior trim, 320i Sports wheels, and the M-Sport suspension bits. But it doesn’t have iDrive though, so for that you’ll have to go for the 323i and above variants. The 320d Sports consumes just 6.0 liters of diesel per 100km on an average driving cycle and if you’re on long distance trips it should be even better.
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The BMW 520d Sports Edition has the same engine as the 320d Sports – a 2.0 liter turbodiesel engine with 177 horsepower and 350Nm of torque. 0 to 100km/h takes a little more time at 8.4 seconds because it is a larger car.
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The term Sports Edition means it’s sort of in between a regular 5 and a 5 M-Sport. You have the M-Sport bodykit, M-Sport wheels, M-Sport steering, but no M-Sport seats and M-Sport suspension. So it’s going to be more of a comfort cruiser with the aesthetic go-fast bits tacked on. Like all 5-Series save for the non-SE 523i, you get the latest version of iDrive with the internal hard drive storage and etc.
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Both the 320d Sports and 520d Sports have a rather odd-looking exhaust tip that points downwards. All the non-M-Sport E39 5-Series used to have this exhaust but the difference is it was hidden behind the bumper, out of sight. But with the M-Sport kits on both the 3 and 5 of this current generation, the bumpers are designed to show off the exhaust tailpipe in full glory so it’s kind of weird to have this design.The reason for this is due to the rules set by the German HQ. We get Euro 3 versions of these engines due to our diesel quality which is only just Euro 2M and not the Euro 4/5 capable diesel available in Europe, and amongst the various differences is the fact that the DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter) has been removed because of the Euro 2M sulphur levels.For cars without DPF filters, the instruction is to have the tailpipe facing the road. For owners, you can probably get that fixed at JFA in Sunway or something or something. Other than that, BMW says they’ve done adequate testing and the engine should run fine on our Euro 2M fuel, at least within the warranty period.
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The flagship is of course the 730d long wheelbase with the new aluminium crankcase 6-cylinder diesel engine. This is a new generation diesel engine that I had the opportunity to try out matched with a manual gearbox when it was installed in a 330d in Germany. In Malaysia installed in the F02 7-Series, its mated to a ZF 6-speed automatic.
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It’s got 245 horsepower and 540Nm of torque, but consumes 6.9 liters per 100km. The engine felt really amazing in the 330d – unlike other diesel engines its powerband did not taper off at the higher ends of the rev range, which shows somehow with this new generation BMW has managed to control the auto-ignition combustion quite well at high revs. The 7-Series is the only car in Malaysia with this new engine, but the X5 xDrive30d will probably be getting this engine too when its time for it to be facelifted.
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Looking at the 730d at the launch also gave us a sneak peek at changes to the 7-Series offerings when it comes to the 2010 model year here in Malaysia. The rear passengers of all 7-Series variants will now get a proper full-fledged iDrive controller, including this new 730d. Previously, rear passenger iDrive was only available on the 750i. The 740i had the dual rear screens but you had to control it with a remote control, and the user interface was a little limited on features. Now with full rear iDrive on all models, the ceiling air conditioning vents have been removed as part of the spec adjustment, presumably so the same price can be offered.
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Removing the ceiling air conditioning vents is probably good as the option adds a little box in the boot that intrudes into the bootspace which I initially thought was a subwoofer of some kind, but is in fact the aircond compressor. This means 2010 model cars will have more boot space. I don’t think people will miss the ceiling aircond much as there is still the B-pillar and center console air conditioning.
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The following are the prices for the new diesel models:BMW 320d Sports – RM 255,800.00BMW 520d Sports Edition – RM 379,800.00BMW X3 xDrive20d Executive Edition – RM 333,800.00BMW 730Ld – RM 698,800.00http://paultan.org/
 
Aiyoo.... that's the 320d that can run 1,500km on a single tank of diesel, so I only pump once in 1.1 month.. why so late only introduce.. :(

Any comment on how they cope with local diesel?
 
fabianyee;459179 said:
Would the engine last longer with retrofitted particulate filter??

We don't have it in the 1st place because of the local diesel quality. So I guess retrofit is pointless else they should have came with the car.

(but why low quality diesel can't work together with DPF?)

After a bit of google/wiki/definition et cetera, DPF is a device designed to remove diesel particulate matter or soot from the exhaust gas of a diesel engine.
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Which means its a post-combustion filtering, not the normal pre-combustion diesel filter that sometimes you need to drain water out lagi :stupid:

It needs proper maintenance.
'Filters require more maintenance than catalytic converters. Engine oil ash builds up on the surface of the inlet face of the filter, and will eventually clog the pores. This increases the pressure drop over the filter, which when it reaches 3.6 pounds per square inch (25 kPa) or higher it is capable of causing engine damage. Regular filter maintenance is a necessity.'

My guess is, our local diesel is too horrible that the DPF would clog so many times in the 3 years BSRI therefore BMW removes it to avoid warranty claim. Moreover Malaysia government tak sayang environment pun, diesel hanya euro2m, saye punya engine dah euro3, cukup la :listen:
 
These engines are EURO 3 Version but we have EURO 2 diesel... So, theorectically a DPF would be able to filter off more sulfur and prolong engine life?
 
Diesel particulate filter, DPF works like a catalytic converter in petrol cars to cleanse emission. High sulfur content diesel will interfere with the working of the DPF.. so pointless to install them here.

DPF, quoted from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_particulate_filter
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At least our diesel is effective in keeping snakes away.. :wink:

Diesel particulate filter for 320d in Europe (LHD):
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I think these local launched units are CBU la!! ?? :confused:
 
I thot the filter is pre-combustion...
Why are we still using Euro2 diesel??? Maybe we might get Euro4 when 2020 comes...
 
Johorian can use loo... just need to go down to S'pore once a month to fill up.. :p

Year, Standard, Specification.
1994, Euro 1, Maximum sulphur limit of 0.2% (wt.) = 2,000 ppm for all gas oils, including diesel fuel.
1996, Euro 2, A maximum sulphur limit of 0.05% (wt.) = 500 ppm for diesel fuel.
2000, Euro 3, A maximum sulphur limit of 0.035% (wt.) = 350 ppm and cetane number of 51 for diesel fuel.
2005, Euro 4, A maximum sulphur limit of 0.005% (wt.) = 50 ppm for diesel fuel. “Sulphur-free”10 ppm sulphur diesel fuel must be available for highway vehicles.
2009, Euro 5, A maximum sulphur limit of 0.001% (wt.) = 10 ppm (“sulphur-free”) for diesel fuel for highway and non road vehicles
Next, Euro 6, single digit sulphur < 10ppm.

Update:

So why high sulphur no good?

Sulphur in diesel forms sulphur oxides during combustion, which promotes particulate formation in the exhaust gas. Sulphur oxides further react with moisture present in the combustion chamber to form sulphuric acid which causes corrosion on the cylinder liner piston, ring and and piston. Low sulphur diesel reduces these phenomena substantially. This also enables an increase in oil drainage intervals as basic additives in the engine oil that sustain Total Base Number (TBN) have a much reduced depletion rate.

Sulphuric acid formed by combustion of sulphur in diesel play a major role in increasing engine wear.

Sulphur in diesel leads to the formation of sulphate particulates. In the engine oil, these cause depletion of the additives and thickening of the engine oil. Same phenomena with high sulphur petrol thickens the engine oil is a petrol engine.

The sulphate particulates, that leave the exhaust and that form in the air from sulphur dioxide emissions, also negatively effect air quality.

More info here:
http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_int...9/50ppmSulphurDieselCommercialMarineUsers.pdf

Sulphur level in diesel vs engine life:
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These new engines have been technically tuned and suited to our current diesel which is at 500PPM. Some of the tweaks done by the engineers is to reduce the pressure in the fuel rail to prolong injector life and to remove the particulate filter. That said, at 100 mins idling, these engines produce the same amount of emmissions as a stick of burning cigarette.
 
Just out of curiosity,why the faaargh doesn't our gomen bring in the Euro 3 or 4?does it cost a lot more than the poison we are using now?To my knowledge,diesel is far greater in use compared to petrol.Aren't these goons concerned even a little over the environment?The buggers will come after you if you even burn some dried grass in your yard but this ok pulak?
 
Bro Guna,
It's simple economies of scale at work here. It cost money to refine diesel to meet Euro 4 specs. This directly translates to lower margins for the powers that be. Price increase translates to lost votes. Simple really.
 
my 2 cents

1. transport industry needs to upgrade old lorries
2. new lorries mean new charges - translated into higher cost of goods

from what i know, oil & gas companies are ready for Euro 4. The issue is, can Malaysians afford to pay market price of Euro 4 diesel... Just see how much it is in Singapore.
Someone told me the newer trucks are Euro 4 ready but the older trucks, buses cannot take the newer diesels.
Yes, consumption is better, but still need to fork a huge sum of money to replace the fleet or for a single truck operator, that is still a huge money to invest

govt needs to come up with a clear plan on transition to newer diesel and transparent pricing mechanism for fuel. No other choice. We can't continue living in subsidies.
 
Diesel BMW from UK

Hi guys. Ive got a quick question for our experts: Can I use malaysian diesel for dieasel BMW cars bought in the UK? Somebody mentioned to me about malaysian diesel will probably damage these imported engines... ?
 
aminamshow;606759 said:
Hi guys. Ive got a quick question for our experts: Can I use malaysian diesel for dieasel BMW cars bought in the UK? Somebody mentioned to me about malaysian diesel will probably damage these imported engines... ?

Salam n good greetings aminamshow .... yes you can and a bit of extra care will help your care last longer .... diesel, be it Malaysian or not will not damaged your engines ...your attitude towards maintaining your car will determine the life of its engine ... I hv been on diesel for more than 3 years and I hv my moneis worth ... :):)
btw.....since this is your 1st post, I presume you are new here. Kindly do an intro at the newbie section the soonest you can .... :):):)
 
Wsalam and thanks for the reply...

I'm not a BMW owner yet but hopefully will be by next month... still struggling makin up my mind... and this petrol vs diesel thing was killing me because will bring my car back to malaysia at the end of the day... but ur reply did help a lot... Thanks again

Will send a post in the newbie section soon ;)

p/s: several BMW owners who i know back in Malaysia did discourage me on buying one as theirs caused them RM5000 every 2months... its hard to believe that this can happen with such good cars like BMW... but they did kill my will of owning a 5 series at one point until i found this forum :D
 
aminamshow;606907 said:
Wsalam and thanks for the reply...

I'm not a BMW owner yet but hopefully will be by next month... still struggling makin up my mind... and this petrol vs diesel thing was killing me because will bring my car back to malaysia at the end of the day... but ur reply did help a lot... Thanks again

Will send a post in the newbie section soon ;)

p/s: several BMW owners who i know back in Malaysia did discourage me on buying one as theirs caused them RM5000 every 2months... its hard to believe that this can happen with such good cars like BMW... but they did kill my will of owning a 5 series at one point until i found this forum :D

... love ur future udm like its your wifey... take good care of it n it will surely take care of your "pockets" :biggrin:
 
definitely a diesel but not a big cruiser. more like a smaller pocket rocket la bro dzul... maybe a 1 or a 3 or an X in a few years time when Euro 4 or 5 is out
 
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