X5 4.4 vs mitshubishi airtrek t

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hi SIFUS/all,Yesterday@ approx.1500hrs at NS H/way, otw from melaka to jb(pagoh- machap), witnessed highspeed race between x5(driver alone,1ST MODEL with black spotrim) and airtrek T. Look like the x 5 4.4 is struggle and unable to overtake the airtrek(with 4 passangers/load)...i'm with e36 328 only manage to follow them half way and later giveup.. cause they are really damb fast..!!If the x5 owner is here, may be can give a bit comment.. tQ.G.
 
Im not the X5 owner but what can I say. X5 cannot compete with a turbocharged Japo,maybe horsepower X5 win hands down but in terms of weight? Its like 100kg man sprint with 45kg man, who will win? Obviously not the 100kg man rite?
 
Just looked at basic spec, not much difference like 9der said. One is lighter still even with 4 passenger.

Mitsubishi Airtrek spec:

Curb vehicle weight, kg 1520

Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 240 ps (176.52 kw) / 5500 rpm

Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 35.0 kg*m (343.23 N*m) / 2500 rpm

BMW X5 Spec:

Kerb weight 2195 kg

Max. Power: 319.4 PS / 315 bhp / 234.9 kW @ 6100 rpm

Max. Torque: 440.0 Nm / 325 ft.lb / 44.9 kgm @ 3700 rpm
 
v3nu5_xx;676884 said:
Just looked at basic spec, not much difference like 9der said. One is lighter still even with 4 passenger.

Mitsubishi Airtrek spec:

Curb vehicle weight, kg 1520

Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 240 ps (176.52 kw) / 5500 rpm

Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 35.0 kg*m (343.23 N*m) / 2500 rpm

BMW X5 Spec:

Kerb weight 2195 kg

Max. Power: 319.4 PS / 315 bhp / 234.9 kW @ 6100 rpm

Max. Torque: 440.0 Nm / 325 ft.lb / 44.9 kgm @ 3700 rpm

try to calculate Power to Weight ratio between these 2 cars...
(without passenger n driver)
airtrek : 116.13kW / ton(1000kg)
X5 : 107.01kW / ton (1000kg)

estimated with driver & passengers
airtrek ( 4 person = 280kg ) : 98kW / ton (1000kg)
X5 ( 1 person = 70kg ) : 103.7kW / ton (1000kg)

my 2 cent...
 
the assumption is that the airtrek Turbo is stock... but maybe it isn't.... not difficult squeeze more hp from the FI engine... ;)
 
fabianyee;676925 said:
the assumption is that the airtrek Turbo is stock... but maybe it isn't.... not difficult squeeze more hp from the FI engine... ;)

yup...fully agreed.
 
Stock Airtrek turbo max speed cut at 180kph, with restrictor removed plus chipping, we should be looking at 230kph.

X5 4.4 standard max speed is 240kph.. With extra 100Nm of torque. It seems it has the advantage.

E36 M52B28, 193ps, 280Nm, 1395kg, max speed 240kph. 106kw/ton

I'll put my money on YOU!!! :4:
 
astroboy
Stock Airtrek turbo max speed cut at 180kph, with restrictor removed plus chipping, we should be looking at 230kph.

X5 4.4 standard max speed is 240kph.. With extra 100Nm of torque. It seems it has the advantage.

E36 M52B28, 193ps, 280Nm, 1395kg, max speed 240kph. 106kw/ton - (Passenger + driver + car old )
I'll put my money on YOU!!!

....if cruising 160~180km/hr..i think, still ok .. but, this about how fast u reach 240km..

G
 
geaydell;677008 said:
....if cruising 160~180km/hr..i think, still ok .. but, this about how fast u reach 240km..

G

If road got traffic, a bimmer will always weave better than a high CG SUV, or a JDM wagon. If clear highway, a 3 series can take most PLUS corners at above 200kph with minimal deceleration than the other 2. This is not a traffic light sprint or 0~100, u can maintain throttle for kilometers while they have to struggle managing their cornering speed, u no need.. :4:

Also I just learnt that my E90 speedometer reading is overstated, meaning meter at 200kph, my Garmin only shows 180kph. That why I always kena cucuk kao kao by Camry and Accord 2.4 despite they suffer fuel cut at 200kph. Now I now what went wrong.. I need to do 220 on my meter.. then I'll see them disappearing in my rear view mirror.. :4: Check yours and make sure its reported correctly, many said my car when doing 160kph like very slow, it is indeed slow because Garmin only shows 150kph.. :13:
 
Wah...200kph still consider slow ka....anyway, speed is relative. When compare with Bugatti Veyron top speed, everyone is slow. :) cheers
 
200kph is not slow but if there are M boys or 335s in the pack.. there are doing above 250kph.. :4:
 
astroboy;677124 said:
200kph is not slow but if there are M boys or 335s in the pack.. there are doing above 250kph.. :4:
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arifferio;676921 said:
try to calculate Power to Weight ratio between these 2 cars...
(without passenger n driver)
airtrek : 116.13kW / ton(1000kg)
X5 : 107.01kW / ton (1000kg)

estimated with driver & passengers
airtrek ( 4 person = 280kg ) : 98kW / ton (1000kg)
X5 ( 1 person = 70kg ) : 103.7kW / ton (1000kg)

my 2 cent...

auto gbox makan hp also...
so yeah, if 328 is manual, $$$ on 328...
 
I know 1 flying Singh who has touched 276km/h before in his e36


...had tried before my e36 328i only manage to get 230km/h with long straight hway. dont think my car able to reach 250km/hr, with auto and 4 speed g/box. possible?

my friend said at highspeed cruising high hp is really help..is it true?

G
 
alamak...semua kaw..kaw punya blahh......200++ lorr....
'ingatlah org yg tersyang"...hehehe
 
geaydell;676866 said:
hi SIFUS/all,

Yesterday@ approx.1500hrs at NS H/way, otw from melaka to jb(pagoh- machap), witnessed highspeed race between x5(driver alone,1ST MODEL with black spotrim) and airtrek T. Look like the x 5 4.4 is struggle and unable to overtake the airtrek(with 4 passangers/load)...

i'm with e36 328 only manage to follow them half way and later giveup.. cause they are really damb fast..!!

Car is only one part, the other major component is the driver.....
 
arifferio;676921 said:
try to calculate Power to Weight ratio between these 2 cars...
(without passenger n driver)
airtrek : 116.13kW / ton(1000kg)
X5 : 107.01kW / ton (1000kg)

estimated with driver & passengers
airtrek ( 4 person = 280kg ) : 98kW / ton (1000kg)
X5 ( 1 person = 70kg ) : 103.7kW / ton (1000kg)

my 2 cent...

Possible2 provided that the Airtrek is not bog standard anymore. Sapa la nak pakai enjin turbo stndard Japo ye x? Confirm dah upgrade tu.. Paling kureng 300++hp x terkejor yop! ;)
 
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