Is he a CHEAT????

[ALBundy]

Now his fellow drivers wanna sack him as the leader of GPDA!! What do you think of his actions of deliberately parking his car during the last few minutes of qualifying at Monaco? Mind you, he didnt park his car during the actual race - 78 laps and he did set the fastest time as well!!http://www.planet-f1.com/News/Story_Page/0...1251831,00.htmlAnd bringing the sport into disrepute!! What a disgrace for a seven time world champion..ptuuuiiiihttp://www.planet-f1.com/News/Story_Page/0...1252807,00.html

 

[OSFlanker]

It's hard to tell from the video footage coz none of us have driven an F1 car so we have no idea why he was twiddling the steering in such manner.

But on balance it seems that he could have carried on, hell he is 7 times world champion! As JV said, if he did make a mistake, the FIA should take a look at how he got his super licence and another driver compared schumi to ide, which is not very flatering at all.

So I voted for no. 3. Mind you, we all know Schumi's ruthless streak is very mean indeed - look at what he did to Barrichello last year, and no doubt Damon Hill must be ruing the fact that stewards didn't do sh1t when he was racing with Schumi.

Lastly, Flavio shouldn't talk so loud about this affair. His record with Benetton when Schumi drove for him is not exactly angelic either. Didn't the FIA ban his team for hiding the traction control software?

 

[lipisbimmer]

HE SHOULD HAVE HUNG HIS RACING BOOTS THE LAST 2 SEASON, WHILE HE WAS AT THE TOP !!!!

 

[RedZ4]

Its human nature and sometimes society that is quick to condemn someone for a little mistake. Come on... I don't think Schumacher is going to lose any sleep over this. The dude was already on pole position until the last few hundred meters. And he probably would have gotten an even faster time had he not lost control of his car on that corner.

There is no way you can say he is a disgrace for the sport. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but after what he's done for the sport. a small incidence like doesn't even get close to disgracing F1.

He did come from last place to 5th in the race. There is no doubt he would probably be in a podium finish had he started even 5th. This is all about racing. Its a very competitive sport and things like this happen. Just please that no one was hurt physically. Only lots of bruised egos

I especially like Montoya's statement when asked about Michael's performance in the race. He said... well last year, I started last and finished fourth. :aggressive: cockly colombian.

 

[ALBundy]

The race stewards were the ones that decided (based on the live video evidence, telemetry and etc) Schumi had deliberately parked his car. Lets not forget Alonso was ahead of the times set by Schumi earlier in sector 1 and 2 and probably would have been ahead if not of the incident. He was ultimately 0.062 sec behind the time set by Schumi earlier, which he could have easily beaten.

And to deprive other drivers from setting a faster lap time in the dying minutes of qualifying is indeed a scrupluos act which someone like schumi's stature need not to do. It only hurt his reputation, much like Barry Bonds getting Juiced UP!!

 

[burn]

from last to fifth place... sudah menunjukkan kehebatannya!

 

[ALBundy]

Tapi jangan lupa pasal Raikonnen, klien, webber dan trulli yang semua mengalami masalah teknikal. Kalau tidak. nombor 9 :rofl:

 

[fabianyee]

Shit happens in motorsports. See how Kimi had to go out behind the Safety Car and a long walk back. Did he go back to the pit or went straight to his yacht for jacuzzi?

Whether it's a genuine deliberate move or not, only he would know. but everyone seem think that a mistake like that is just not possible for a 7 time champion.....

However, i think it's going a bit overboard with this new twist...

 

[ace99]

the thing is he won championship by cheating many years back. he is not the true champ la.

 

[buddy]

I believe it was a genuine mistake.

By the way, noticed how all the drivers just jumped in the bandwagon and lambasted Schumi for his action. I mean,what would Alonso, or even Flavio, would have done, if they were in his position. the simple fact is,the car seized up and could not move anymore.

And none of the drivers cared to air his opinion on how Schumi should have handled his situation...or what would be the right course of action in that instance.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Schumi...but i think this is just a minor blip in his record books. Like someone mentioned earlier, i don't think he's going to lose any sleep over it.

Just my 2 kupang.

Cheers

 

[Lee36328]

Bundy,

what's the difference between option 1 and option 3 in your poll?

 

[three28]

Originally posted by RedZ4@May 30 2006, 12:44 PM
Its human nature and sometimes society that is quick to condemn someone for a little mistake. Come on... I don't think Schumacher is going to lose any sleep over this. The dude was already on pole position until the last few hundred meters. And he probably would have gotten an even faster time had he not lost control of his car on that corner.

There is no way you can say he is a disgrace for the sport. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but after what he's done for the sport. a small incidence like doesn't even get close to disgracing F1.

He did come from last place to 5th in the race. There is no doubt he would probably be in a podium finish had he started even 5th. This is all about racing. Its a very competitive sport and things like this happen. Just please that no one was hurt physically. Only lots of bruised egos

I especially like Montoya's statement when asked about Michael's performance in the race. He said... well last year, I started last and finished fourth. :aggressive: cockly colombian.

I totally agree ... couldnt be said any better

cheerz

 

[XXX]

in past races in qlfyg and race people have gone off at tht corner...and it being a very slow corner the dramatics no so dramalah..but most of the time the cars that went off there did not hit anything its just that the turning circle of an F1 car is not like our normal cars so very hard for them to turn back out once they under steer there... so happen this time our friend ms went off....if it was lets say somebody else that went out that day it would have been a diiferent story...but until then only god and himself knows what happened that day.

 

[adliz]

Originally posted by burn@May 30 2006, 12:18 AM
from last to fifth place... sudah menunjukkan kehebatannya!

well, montoya started last, and finished forth last season.. btw, he said sorry.. meaning he admitted..?

 

[55bus]

I have never been his fan, as his records of dubious incidents in the past lend credence that this act is deliberate. I am sure the race stewards do not take their decisions lightly as their actions have to stand up to scrutiny.
MS was not heading to the pits during that lap and not going for another qualifying lap, so he was not driving at the limit. There was minimal lock up if any if you watch the replay, and definitely , with his driving skills, seems to me he could have easily steered clear and continued on.

As to his last position to fifth, I don't doubt he has pretty good skills and he does have a superior car vs many others. His fifth position is almost a lap behind the winner, and that is also thanks to many of the front runners dropping out.

I always wonder whether MS would do any better if he has to drive the lesser F1 cars like Red Bull or the Aguri HHonda which are much more of a handful to handle and probably needs a lot more skills to stay on the track?

 

[XXX]

If MS were to drive the Redbull or Aguri noway he can be what he is today...but the thing is when he drives the Redbull or Aguri there will be better results than with the current drivers..how do you think Alonso's talent or Mark Webber's talent were spotted ?it was by driving hopeless cars (Minardi) but providing better results than anyone would in those cars. Its 70% machine and 30% the nut behind the wheel.

I used to hate MS as I was a fan of Damon Hill back then..that time MS just rose to the ranks with the departure of the late great Ayrton Senna...but after a few championships and getting hitched the guy mellowed alot..and wasnt that stuck up anymore but its bcos of his past that we still judge him that way.

Well that will always be the case..you can do 10 good things and nobody will remember you but just screw up once and youre remembered for life.

 

[55bus]

I dont doubt his talent, he is definitely among the better drivers. If it is a one make race with Webber, Alonso, Kimi, , wonder what might be the outcome .

Just that his integrity to me is questionable.There is an article in The Sun today that recounted the past incidents involving him..

 

[thinice]

Shumacher is a really great driver in his day. I still remember watching him in his Benetton days when he arguably did not have the best car (Williams have the best car then if I remember correctly).

Somehow, his personal behaviour does not have the same graciousness as the late Senna (my all time favourite driver). He is always a bit of a cheeky brat at heart and being who he is, he cannot expect to get away with it.

I am glad he is in Formula 1 but at the same time, he is definitely not my favourite driver.

 

[XXX]

Originally posted by 55bus@May 31 2006, 11:28 AM
I dont doubt his talent, he is definitely among the better drivers. If it is a one make race with Webber, Alonso, Kimi, , wonder what might be the outcome .

The answer ...No Winners...why?... bcos MS would have taken them all out in the first corner..

 

[ALBundy]

Well, while schumi isnt the greatest driver of all time IMO, but I think he is as good as alonso or kimi, if not better. ITs a great pity the legendary Senna passed away a little early, otherwise he would have whooped schumi's ass pretty bad. Remember when senna was driving the renault williams and took pole position in each race!!