Gulf Oil Spill - Extremist?

[buzzlie]

"Heard your mention of the oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico this morning, and you (and most everyone else except maybe George Noory) are totally missing the boat on how big and bad of a disaster this is.First fact, the original estimate was about 5,000 gallons of oil a day spilling into the ocean. Now they're saying 200,000 gallons a day. That's over a million gallons of crude oil a week!I'm engineer with 25 y ears of experience. I've worked on some big projects with big machines. Maybe that's why this mess is so clear to me.First, the BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink. Take a moment to grasp the import of that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.When the rig sank it flipped over and landed on top of the drill hole some 5,000 feet under the ocean.Now they've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of is spewing 20 0,000 barrels of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that, will you!First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor? There just is no way. No way.The only piece of human technology that might address this is a nuclear bomb. I'm not kidding. If they put a nuke down there in the right spot it might seal up the hole. Nothing short of that will work.If we can't cap that hole that oil is going to destroy the oceans of the world. It only takes one quart of motor oil to make 250,000 gallons of ocean water toxic to wildlife. Are you starting to get the magnitude of this?We're so used to our politicians creating false crises to fo rward their criminal agendas that we aren't recognizing that we're staring straight into possibly the greatest disaster mankind will ever see. Imagine what happens if that oil keeps flowing until it destroys all life in the oceans of this planet. Who knows how big of a reservoir of oil is down there.Not to mention that the oceans are critical to maintaining the proper oxygen level in the atmosphere for human life.We're humped. Unless God steps in and fixes this. No human can. You can be sure of that!

 

[Hellraiser]

i'm boycotting BP or BHP or whatever that is related to the issue.

 

[astroboy]

OMG!! 2012 are made possible by human!

i'm boycotting BP or BHP or whatever that is related to the issue.

.. then how they gonna find money to plug the lobang?

Found this update:

AP source: Obama to meet oil spill panel chairmen
By DARLENE SUPERVILLE (AP) – 1 hour ago

ANDREWS AIR FORCE BASE, Md. — President Barack Obama planned to meet Tuesday with the co-chairmen of an independent commission investigating BP's catastrophic spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

A senior administration official said Obama will meet at the White House with Bob Graham, who is a former Florida governor and U.S. senator, and William K. Reilly, a former head of the Environmental Protection Agency.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the meeting had not been formally announced.

It will be Obama's first meeting with the group since naming the commission less than two weeks ago.

The session comes three days after BP said its latest attempt to stop the oil spewing out of a broken well 5,000 feet underwater had failed, and four days after Obama visited coastal Louisiana to assess the situation and assure residents frustrated by the government's response that he is doing everything possible to fix the well.

Amid concern that the worst oil spill in U.S. history could threaten his presidency, Obama has stepped up his public appearances to demonstrate that he is engaged. He held a White House news conference Thursday, focused almost entirely on the oil spill, and followed that with the Gulf visit on Friday.

Obama still must name five members of the commission, which will investigate such issues as what caused the spill, the safety of offshore drilling and operations at the federal agency that grants drilling rights.

The administration official said Obama was not expected to announce those names on Tuesday.

The Gulf oil spill began April 20 when BP's Deepwater Horizon drilling rig exploded off the Louisiana coast, killing 11 workers and rupturing the underwater pipe.

In the six weeks since, the government estimates that between 19.7 million and 43 million gallons of crude have poured into the Gulf — affecting beaches, wildlife and the local economy and making it the worst spill in U.S. history.

After BP announced Saturday that its latest attempt to stop the oil, known as a "top kill," had failed, Obama said that disappointing news was "as enraging as it is heartbreaking."

It was the latest in a series of failed efforts by the British oil company to shut off the oil flow. BP will try again as early as Wednesday when it attempts to put a cap on the leaking well so oil can be siphoned to the surface.

Source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iR2u7XhbCuEUcJvZiPBPetOzSlDAD9G25B600

 

[astroboy]

An another:

BP faces daunting Gulf liability costs

Damage to reputation of London-based multinational another area of concern as oil spill continues to spread.

Shawn McCarthy Global Energy Reporter
Ottawa — From Tuesday's Globe and Mail
Published on Monday, May. 31, 2010 7:17PM EDT
Last updated on Monday, May. 31, 2010 8:31PM EDT
BP (BP-N42.95----%) faces a staggering liability from the Gulf of Mexico blowout as the prospect of a summer of blackening seas strengthens the U.S. Congress’s determination to make the oil giant pay for every dime of damage.

The company is working to deploy another containment system this week – aimed at capturing most of the oil gushing from its Macondo well – in what may be the last chance to cap the blowout before relief wells are completed in August and limit the growing environmental disaster.

BP chairman Tony Hayward has vowed the London-based multinational will pay every legitimate claim associated with economic loss and environmental damage – a tab that some analysts have said could top $15-billion (U.S.). But the dire prospect of the well gushing uncontrollably for another two months, spewing the equivalent of four Exxon Valdez loads of crude into the Gulf, renders all estimates of BP’s ultimate liability into pure speculation. The final tab could strain even BP’s considerable resources.

As trust between the U.S. government and the company frays, the Obama administration and Democrat-controlled Congress are moving to ensure the company faces a legal requirement to cover costs, rather than relying on its goodwill gesture.

Legislation has been introduced in both the Senate and the House of Representatives to remove the $75-million cap on liability for economic damage from a spill, and senior officials at the U.S. Justice Department say they believe the bill raising it to $10-billion can be made retroactive to cover the BP blowout.

The liability cap only limits the company’s costs for direct economic impacts of the spill, and only if it is not found to have been negligent or in violation of federal regulations. BP has already spent $900-million on the cleanup effort and faces months of ongoing work – even if it can succeed in capping the blowout and funnelling most of the crude into a tanker.

It also faces the prospect of federal and state fines, and class action suits from people who the company feels do not have “legitimate” claims, or who believe BP’s compensation offer is inadequate.

U.S. Representative Ed Markey, chair of the House energy committee investigating the spill, is spearheading one effort to change the liability law.

“I do not believe that large energy companies should be able to escape liability for the catastrophes they create,” Mr. Markey told CBS’s Face the Nation on the weekend.

He claimed that company officials deliberately “low-balled” the estimate of crude gushing from the damaged well in order to minimize potential fines.

“If it’s 1,000 barrels per day, it’s a relatively low fine but if it’s 10,000, or 15,000 or 20,000 barrels a day, it could wind up billions of dollars in fines that BP executives would have to pay the federal government,” Mr. Markey said.

Republicans in Congress warn against raising the liability cap to $10-billion, saying it would drive out independent or smaller oil companies from exploring in the Gulf of Mexico. Democrats, however, argue companies should have the resources to deal with the worst-case scenario if they are going to be permitted to drill offshore.

The potential liability is daunting – even for a company of BP’s size – but is unlikely to cripple it. BP earned $6-billion in the first quarter of the year, and an average of $20-billion annually in 2008 and 2009.

And the oil company will no doubt seek to recoup some of its costs from its partners on the Deepwater Horizon, including Transocean Ltd. which owned the rig and Halliburton Co., which provided drilling services.

For BP, the damage is not just financial, but also reputational. The company has sought to repair its reputation after a series of accidents and incidents gave it a reputation for being reckless in its pursuit of profits.

After its deadly explosion at a Texas refinery in 2005, BP paid $2-billion to settle civil suits and $50-million to settle criminal charges under the Clean Air Act, the largest fine ever imposed under the Act. It is appealing an additional fine of $87.4-million imposed by the Occupational Health and Safety Administration last year for failing to correct deficiencies at the refinery.

After its Prudoe Bay pipeline leaked quantities of crude in Alaska in 2006, the company paid a $20-million fine, and faces an additional $50-million levy from the Environmental Protection Agency.

And in October, 2007, BP energy traders in Houston were charged with manipulation of propane prices. The company settled those charges with a $303-million fine, a record for commodity market settlement.

Source: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ity-costs-from-gulf-oil-spill/article1587306/

 

[ramsing]

that's why....u better enjoy life now. the future looks bleaker and bleaker. the way we are going, it looks like a certainty that we're gonna end it all. maybe its a cycle?? who knows....but at least if u have to go, go knowing that you enjoyed life.

 

[astroboy]

So why wash car? haha! Really KNS!!

 

[berserkdroid]

that's why....u better enjoy life now. the future looks bleaker and bleaker. the way we are going, it looks like a certainty that we're gonna end it all. maybe its a cycle?? who knows....but at least if u have to go, go knowing that you enjoyed life.

... and enjoyed our bavarian beasts as well...

 

[buzzlie]

So any oil & gas bosses here to verify or share your technical expertise?

 

[Hellraiser]

So any oil & gas bosses here to verify or share your technical expertise?

Bro, I think enough has been shared. This is the first time something like this has happened and no one has the expertise how to go about it from using mud to plug the source to throwing junk to jam up the spill. Main culprits here - BP, Halliburton and Transocean.

Sure, blow it up to stop the leak but that would be another ecological disaster as well. I dunno what to say, we can send a man to the moon and there are plans to send to Mars but we can handle something in our own home.

In time to come our children wouldn't even know what a fish looks like because there will be nothing left but a dead ocean void of life.

maybe they should send a submarine to ram the leak, "cork-ing" it in the process. Maybe we should use the Malaysian sub. It can't submerge anyway so might as well put it to good use!

 

[M5POWER]

1 word.. Horrible.

God please fix this "tungang-terbalik" world...