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here's the best in 2 liter with 260bhp to play! wondering if there's any NA machine close to this! If you thought the Civic Type R couldn't get any better, think again. Honda's firebreathing Type R-R has arrived - and we've driven itBy Paul Bailey18th April 2007
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Considering how much extra power is going through the front wheels, traction is remarkable
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Few cars have been as eagerly anticipated or made as big an impact as Honda's Civic Type R. The British-built sensation saw off all-comers in a first test against key rivals in Issue 946, and established itself as Auto Express's favourite hot hatch in the process.Now there's worse news for the opposition. The Japanese firm has created the Type R-R, an even more focused version of the class winner, and a spiritual successor to Ford's Escort Cosworth - and it looks set to kick the Focus ST into touch! We were first to put it to the test.Its basis is a standard Type R, but a series of modifications swell engine power and reduce kerbweight.Honda has stripped out the cabin, removing anything that isn't absolutely necessary in the name of shedding the pounds. Gone is the stereo, and for the moment sound deadening is absent, too. The standard seats have now been replaced with figure-hugging racing items, and what these lack in adjustability they make up for by giving a sportier, lower driving position than in the regular car. The racy feeling from behind the wheel is suitably amplified when you press the dash-mounted starter.As the engine bursts into life, it sounds far more raucous than that of the standard model. Bosses were adamant the original Type R didn't need buckets of power, yet engineers clearly couldn't help themselves when it came to specifying the R-R's motor.Thanks to careful tuning, this car kicks out a tyre-burning 260bhp. It's the same basic i-VTEC 2.0-litre unit, but Honda has reduced friction on the internals and redesigned the camshafts. However, the greatest power gains have come from electronic improvements made using the ECU to operate the VTEC system.Now, the engine doesn't go into fuel-sipping mode at lower revs, improving throttle response as a result. Meanwhile, the VTEC set-up cuts in at 5,100rpm instead of 5,400rpm. So rather than the perceptible increase in power you get when VTEC is unleashed on the standard model, the R-R's engine feels stronger throughout the rev range thanks to a 30 per cent hike in torque. Combining a compliant ride with taut handling is one of the standard hot Civic's greatest attributes. And although this car's suspension has been revised to give it more focused handling, it still rides bumps surprisingly well.Probably the biggest change is to the steering. It has been made even more responsive, so the smallest input to the Alcantara-clad wheel has an immediate impact on the vehicle's position on the road. However, you do have to put your faith in the system because it's lacking in feedback, particularly at low speeds. Still, the car's handling remains nimble and sure-footed.Another area that doesn't fall short on the standard model is the gear-change. Yet while the original is a manual, this car gets a six-speed sequential unit. You use the clutch to start off, and then simply pull the lever back to shift up and push it forwards to go down through the box. Changes are made in only 80 milliseconds, which gives a brutal edge to the Type R-R, particularly as the steering wheel writhes with every upshift. Considering how much extra power is going through the front wheels, traction is remarkable. You'd expect to spend a lot of time sitting in a cloud of expensive tyre smoke, but engineers have been careful to tune the suspension so that does not happen. Instead, the car gets on with the job of entertaining its driver with even more purpose than the standard car.Our drive has left us in no doubt that Honda's Civic is the undisputed hot hatch champion. With more power, it just gets better!
 
There is word that HM will bring in the Civic R version with over 200hp and DSG gearbox to Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand later this year!! Rumor is around 220-240hp, but lets hope to see the 260hp version here.
 
Heard it also. Honda would like to bring the car to the mentioned markets, but they had issues on the petrol quality in the region. It was difficult for them to qualify the factory guarantee, claimed performance figures and stuff....
 
E46Fanatic;208292 said:
There is word that HM will bring in the Civic R version with over 200hp and DSG gearbox to Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand later this year!! Rumor is around 220-240hp, but lets hope to see the 260hp version here.

Problem here is we are still on RON 97.. May not be a big difference for normal engines but for those highly tuned engines like the Type R-R, it'll definitely affect the performance and probably engine health..
 
fabianyee;208409 said:
Problem here is we are still on RON 97.. May not be a big difference for normal engines but for those highly tuned engines like the Type R-R, it'll definitely affect the performance and probably engine health..

how did they do 260bhp on a 2 liter displacement? maybe close to 10000rpm? wow, very nice to play in sepang and i would really want one.

the look is fresh and radical and they said they can control 260bhp with front drive. hats of to honda.
 
Hats of to Honda for introducing 130hp per liter for consumer cars. The F20C in the S2000 was doing 9000 rpms with 2.0 ltr and 250hp. I wonder how high this K20 series engine revs to pump out 260hp.

I wonder if the Euro spec Type R-R still has the rear solid beam suspension design. It was one of the weakness of the Euro Civic R esp over uneven roads.
 
fabianyee;208409 said:
Problem here is we are still on RON 97.. May not be a big difference for normal engines but for those highly tuned engines like the Type R-R, it'll definitely affect the performance and probably engine health..

Honda S2000 already pumping out 240bhp stock standard running on Malaysian petrol.
 
The S2000 is not offered by Honda Malaysia. It came via grey importers. All the ultra-high-compression-ratio models of Honda came in via grey imports. They will run on Malaysian fuel. But not as well as they should...
 
I believe the JDM S2000 launched with 250ps. In the US its rated at 240hp, maybe due to emissions or fuel specs.
 
Shucks! I was just telling E46F today of my sheer joy in gunning down a 2.0L Civic on Penchala Link a few nights back! It felt great to hear the full VTEC scream going backwards! heh! Now, there could be these hot hatches capable of leaving me in a trail of dust! Oh fine! I want one too!!
 
minivan;208498 said:
The S2000 is not offered by Honda Malaysia. It came via grey importers. All the ultra-high-compression-ratio models of Honda came in via grey imports. They will run on Malaysian fuel. But not as well as they should...

Yes, Honda Malaysia or Kah Motors didnt bring any EG9, EK9, Integra Type-R, Vigor, Prelude Si to Malaysia.

Most of the S2000 with 240hp is already downtuned relatively speaking. Similarly an Integra Type-R with a remapped piggyback easily gains 8% hp. Seen one locally...and he doesnt use any octane booster.
 
ALBundy;208485 said:
Honda S2000 already pumping out 240bhp stock standard running on Malaysian petrol.

but the article say 260 mah.. u no read ah??? :)

20bhp different is quite a lot for a stock engine, with all due consideration for reliability.. Of cos for aftermarket tuning can still increase but compromises on long term reliability...
 
It's SILLY for Honda not to bring in the Integra, S2000 and other R variants! Just plain silly! As I see it, the volume should be quite there and they can price it at premium CBU prices now that this has changed somewhat to make CBU cars a tad more affordable.
 
Juan Powerblow;208518 said:
It's SILLY for Honda not to bring in the Integra, S2000 and other R variants! Just plain silly! As I see it, the volume should be quite there and they can price it at premium CBU prices now that this has changed somewhat to make CBU cars a tad more affordable.

These cars are considered low volume cars to them. And to bring in more cars means more APs, and the have the certified expertise on servicing and maintaining these cars. These are all cost to them.
 
Juan Powerblow;208518 said:
It's SILLY for Honda not to bring in the Integra, S2000 and other R variants! Just plain silly! As I see it, the volume should be quite there and they can price it at premium CBU prices now that this has changed somewhat to make CBU cars a tad more affordable.

come to singapore to get it. they have everything here... yeah pretty silly of HONDA malaysia not to import to you over-zealous guys!
 
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