BMW wins again

[funfer_fahrer]

Below are the official results:International Engine of the Year Award 20061 BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6)2 BMW Diesel 3-litre twin turboBest Performance Engine Award 20061 BMW 5.0-litre V10Best Engine Above 4-litres Award 20061 BMW 5.0-litre V10Best Engine 3.0-litre to 4.0-litre Award 20061 BMW 3.2-litre six-cylinderBest Engine 2.5-litre to 3-litre Award 20061 BMW 3.0-litre twin-turbo six-cylinder diesel2 BMW 3.0-litre six-cylinder

 

[Juan Powerblow]

The 3.2L hump is the one on M3s? I always thought it was a 3.4L. Wonder what will power the E90 M3, a vee-eight rite?

 

[safri]

udm 3.0 litres rocks... k: k:

 

[funfer_fahrer]

Originally posted by Juan Powerblow@Jul 7 2006, 08:21 PM
The 3.2L hump is the one on M3s? I always thought it was a 3.4L. Wonder what will power the E90 M3, a vee-eight rite?

The E46 3 series coupe and E46 cabrio are powered by 3.2 litre 6 pot engine 252kW. The new E90 335i coupe is powered by inline 6, high precision injection, twin turbo 2979cc engine (225kW). I am not so sure about the E90 M3

 

[adliz]

Originally posted by funfer_fahrer+Jul 7 2006, 11:52 AM-->QUOTE (funfer_fahrer @ Jul 7 2006, 11:52 AM)

 

[funfer_fahrer]

I believe by hook or by crook the inline 6 is going to stay. This is BMW's signature dish. They already perfected the engine. No other car manufacturer can design normally aspirated inline 6 as good as BMW. The V configuration engines are still within the "experimental" stage. Currently, they are using the inline 6 for the new E90 coupe with twin turbo. The next inline 6 for the upcoming 3,5 and 7 series will be fitted with twin turbo. Believe me. Most of the BMW purists including myself will not be pleased as this is a departure from the normally aspirated inline 6. But, in my opinion BMW is viewing this as the "first course" before you hit the "main course". The "main course" is obviously the EfficientDynamics concept which is now being tested on the X3. The EfficicientDynamics concept is actually electric hybrid concept aka Toyota Prius/Harrier RX400 hybrid concept, but this has been taken to a higher level. Instead of having two seperate electric motors like the RX400H, BMW engineers have integrated an electric motor, clutches and control systems into the automatic transmission without having to create extra space. Apart from this, for the energy storage unit BMW uses compact and space-saving supercaps. The cylindrical capasitor lines are fitted in the door sills and generate 190kW of energy. They are capable of taking up and delivering energy extremely quickly. For the time being fuel cell concept is history because it is just too expensive to develop. Even Porsche is having talks with Toyota now regarding the electric hybrid concept.

 

[Kaiza635CSI]

BMW were planning to unveil the all new E90 M4 4.4L V8 4 door this year until it was postponed to next year.

Oh yeah Im sorry so happy got to test drive the All new M6 (LHD) It was amazing, phenomenal, unexplainable actually. sorry abit off topic thought i would share it with u guys...hehe..

 

[supergripen]

unfortunately all these engines are out of reach by all but the very rich or those with very rich parents!!

i would love for BMW to develop better more efficient and also more powerful engines in the 1.8 to 2.4 litre class..don't matter if its NA,turbocharged or hybrid electric.if its got 110bhp/litre or more,i'll take it.. as it is now,BMW engines in the aforementioned class are still below standard.

 

[funfer_fahrer]

unfortunately all these engines are out of reach by all but the very rich or those with very rich parents!!

i would love for BMW to develop better more efficient and also more powerful engines in the 1.8 to 2.4 litre class..don't matter if its NA,turbocharged or hybrid electric.if its got 110bhp/litre or more,i'll take it.. as it is now,BMW engines in the aforementioned class are still below standard.

Unlike Japs engines BMW engines operate at a very high temperature. But, at the same time the engines are made of aluminium block. If BMW wants to achive that (110bhp/litre or more) it must start from scratch; i.e new engine block, new technology, new concept, new everything. The big question is that whether the end user is willing to accept the cost.

 

[supergripen]

Unlike Japs engines BMW engines operate at a very high temperature. But, at the same time the engines are made of aluminium block. If BMW wants to achive that (110bhp/litre or more) it must start from scratch; i.e new engine block, new technology, new concept, new everything. The big question is that whether the end user is willing to accept the cost.

well,it doesn't have to be 'new everything'.. the technology is there for the taking and i do believe BMW can do it.its only a matter of whether the people at 'accounts' are willing to give the go ahead.
..and believe me,there are people willing to pay for it.it makes so much sense..problem now is if,for instance this does happen,say a 220bhp 120i,what will happen to the 130i?? now this is where i see the problem.
nothing to do with technology or whether there is a market for such cars.its all in the marketing side.

end of the day,we make do..as always.accept what they offer us.

 

[funfer_fahrer]

We should leave this to the guy who came up with the theory of evolution. I believe sooner or later we will come to that. It is just a matter of time. Could be just around the corner. I can't tell. Remember at one time BMW came up with the 326 model in 1936 with a capacity of 1971cc with only 50bhp at 3750rpm? With a top speed of only 116km/hr? The best part those days it was considered a masterpiece. Today, I don't think anyone with the need for speed like you and I would love to drive this car.

 

[supergripen]

We should leave this to the guy who came up with the theory of evolution. I believe sooner or later we will come to that. It is just a matter of time. Could be just around the corner. I can't tell. Remember at one time BMW came up with the 326 model in 1936 with a capacity of 1971cc with only 50bhp at 3750rpm? With a top speed of only 116km/hr? The best part those days it was considered a masterpiece. Today, I don't think anyone with the need for speed like you and I would love to drive this car.

can't agree with u more...so for the meantime,i'll get my fix from my STi

imagine a 240bhp 325i/525i with a 2.4 i-6..luvly

 

[funfer_fahrer]

imagine a 240bhp 325i/525i with a 2.4 i-6..luvly

That's what I call an orgasm.

 

[adliz]

can't agree with u more...so for the meantime,i'll get my fix from my STi

imagine a 240bhp 325i/525i with a 2.4 i-6..luvly

they could just go FI and even 280bhp shud be no problem for a 2.5ltr, right?

 

[supergripen]

they could just go FI and even 280bhp shud be no problem for a 2.5ltr, right?

thank you God for creating FI!!!! i'm a converted FI nut...can't argue with adam..