whats the different between GLASURIT PAINT and DU PON PAIN???

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hello ppl...im going to repaint my car...ive been surveying few places in kl to repaint my car based on the forum info and feedback. alot of this paint shop offer dupon paint ..some offer glasurit paint and other offer different kind of paint..(FORGOT THE NAME) i would like all sifu to explain to me the differences? which is the best....some say dupond is good..some say glasurit is the best...im confused?? is there any other type of paint besides this two...... and lastly and recommendation of a spray shop in kl..?? that offer glasurit ?? (someone told me to do in soo seng batu cave) are they good?? looking forward for the reply TQ
 
The difference - price mainly.

My painter uses Sikkens and suits me just fine. Have a look at the paintwork of some of our members. I think Elwin and Kevster have gone to the same painter - could be wrong.

The proof is in the proverbial pudding. Check out the condition of the paintwork after a few years. Tho Kevster's may be misleading due to god know's how much post paintwork care that has gone into it... :p :D
 
I think paint is onething but more importantly is the clear coat dont stinge on that..
 
Many say Glasurit is the best. Other reputable brands are PPG, Standox, Dupont, Isamu and Sikkens. If I'm not mistaken, ICI was taken over by PPG.
 
well...if u are seriously interested, go for standox/glasurit...

very good lacquer...almost mirror finish...and...after 4 years...still looking good...no worries about bird shit...make sure u do maintenance work to keep the mirror shine...ie wax and polish once a while...but most important, initial maintenance.

i will be painting my e30 with standox...i have done so on my w210 with pearl black standox and it still looks dazzling to date.
 
ichiwan2 said:
Tho Kevster's may be misleading due to god know's how much post paintwork care that has gone into it... :p :D

Wah....Boss....sorry ar... I manyak sayang keleta mar....:D
 
chillselalu,

Here's the thing, Dupont and Glasurit both make good paint. The problem is never with the paint, but with the painter.

You see, paint comes in a system:

1) Undercoat
2) Basecoat
3) Clearcoat

Thinners and hardeners are part of the system too. Problem here is, 99.9% of our painters do not use complete systems from the same brand. They like to mix and match with cap 'ayam' brands in the interst of saving costs.

As long as u use a reputable brand, the results will be good. Look for a good painter, that's the difficult decision to make. When u find a painter u might want to try, ask for customer refferals which are at least 2 yrs old. All freshly painted cars look fantastic, time will test the true quality of the painter's work.

Good Luck!
 
kevster30 said:
chillselalu,

Here's the thing, Dupont and Glasurit both make good paint. The problem is never with the paint, but with the painter.

You see, paint comes in a system:

1) Undercoat
2) Basecoat
3) Clearcoat

Thinners and hardeners are part of the system too. Problem here is, 99.9% of our painters do not use complete systems from the same brand. They like to mix and match with cap 'ayam' brands in the interst of saving costs.

As long as u use a reputable brand, the results will be good. Look for a good painter, that's the difficult decision to make. When u find a painter u might want to try, ask for customer refferals which are at least 2 yrs old. All freshly painted cars look fantastic, time will test the true quality of the painter's work.

Good Luck!

thanks a lot fot the expalnation kevster30....i will definitely ask the painter about all the above..... especially what brand are they using for the Thinners and hardeners

ohh yaa i asked this paint shop in batu cave and his charging me rm3500 for the paint...including the ketuk,spraying my car in and out with a new colour,fixing my 2 hand bumper....is that a good price....their using glasurit.....need respond about the price..is that to expansive...??thanks ppl..
 
bro!!! i had my car re-painted outter body at soo seng in batu caves early this yr. Outter body with the same color cost RM2500. pm me if you would like to have a look at my car. oh btw they are using my filters for their spray booth so it's all good haha
 
tamade7 said:
bro!!! i had my car re-painted outter body at soo seng in batu caves early this yr. Outter body with the same color cost RM2500. pm me if you would like to have a look at my car. oh btw they are using my filters for their spray booth so it's all good haha

i would luv 2 c your car....where are u staying?? maybe ill drop by?? anyway what do u mean by "using my filters for their spray booth"...didnt get that??
 
bro!!! I work in Glenmarie Shah Alam and stay at Sri Petaling. PM me and we can set a time to meet. You see, spray booth needs very good air filter on their air supply to filter out dust so that there will be minimal dust sticking onto the fresh wet paint on the car. Soo Seng uses my air filters for their spray booth.
 
There was an article on last Sunday's Star Newspaper about paints compairing Glasurit and Sikkens. The article was contributed by Pro-Garage a paint shop
 
Like new again

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The car ain't a pretty sight but it will be - days later. A Pro-Garage worker sanding down the bonnet of a Mercedes coupe before it is painted. Shop located in Sunway Damansara, Petaling Jaya.
WHEN scratches, dents and stains are beyond a detailer’s ability to remove them, it’s time to feign ignorance or get a new paintjob.
If you choose the latter route, there are plenty of spray-painters eager to make money out of your sorry situation. Workmanship is always a prime concern when scouting for a refinisher. You want a good paint, a long warranty and an excellent job at a fair price.
Pro-Garage Sdn Bhd appears to fit the bill. Judging by its established clientele, it is making all the right moves to draw a steady stream of customers who are on to a good thing when they see one.
It has half of its work cut out for it as it’s a favoured refinisher for two insurers that send it accident vehicles to be restored. Having the hydraulic tools to “tarik chassis” of such beat-up cars means Pro-Garage does not need to outsource such work.
Pro-Garage started out in Petaling Jaya’s Kampung Kayu Ara locale in 1992 and shifted to Sunway Damansara in 2003. It will move to even bigger and better equipped premises nearby this month.
“We don’t do rush jobs; our priority is to give customers quality,” says Pro-Garage managing director N. Suresh.
It takes 14 working days to change the colour of a car and only 10 to re-spray the same colour.
Pro-Garage uses premium Sikkens paint.
“Previously, we used German-made Glasurit but have switched to Sikkens. Sikkens, a Dutch product, is better. It’s easier to blend Sikkens with the body paint. For example, we need only five layers of Sikkens to match paint; it will require seven in the case of Glasurit.”
It also uses locally made Carmix for Proton and Japanese makes like Toyota and Honda.
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A rare sight indeed. This MGA has seen better times. Its owner hopes to restore it to its former glory with a Sikkens paintjob at Pro-Garage of Sunway Damansara, Petaling Jaya. Two cans of the German-made Sikkens paint is shown on top of the MGA, which was launched in 1955. More details on www.mgcars.org.uk/mga.html

Sikkins, being inherently brighter, is unsuitable for them because the contrast will be visible, says Suresh.
For a glossy, durable finish, it’s important to have the preparatory steps done right. Poor prepping can result in lack of adhesion, air entrapment, orange peel, pinhole, fisheye, blistering, wrinkles and pre-treat staining.
The prep work, primer, blocking, and the final spray job and detailing are involving tasks, each taking less than a day to a few days.
It takes two days to strip the car of all its trim, bumpers, mirrors, grille, and other items, followed by sanding, priming and masking.
Then the car is sprayed with the new colour and baked in the oven for four to five hours. It is followed by more sanding and polishing for a smooth lacquer finish.
The car is washed down to remove all contaminants and all the parts are fixed back before a final polish and wash is performed prior to waxing.
Suresh’s workers were able to strip down and reinstall the parts in the Mercedes CL500 and the latest BMW 6 Series without using special tools.
As the work is done by hand, the uniformity of paint deposition on car surfaces cannot equal what a spray painting robot in a factory can achieve. To the customers’ naked eyes, however, Pro-Garage’s refinishing quality is stellar enough to kill complaints.
“After my boys have done the job, I’ll personally inspect every car and make sure the job is of high standards. If not, I’ll tell them to re-do it. But these are few and far in between.” Pro-Garage offers a five-year Sikkens warranty against colour fading. – GEORGE WONG
 
In terms of price, what Darren of Autodetailer told me was that for a complete recolor job using "pure" glasurit (i.e. under, base and clearcoat), it should cost at least 3k upwards.

I'm saving like mad now.... :D
 
I have no doubt that the type of paint is important but getting a good "paint job is 90% labour/attention to detail and 10% paint". having said that one does/should not gofor "protong" quality but if one is using, glasurit, or other reputable brands then one is on safe grounds...
 
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