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<blockquote data-quote="Traveler" data-source="post: 309162" data-attributes="member: 7248"><p>Out of curiosity, test drove the Peugeot 207cc (approximately RM155k, new batch, lower spec than the original higher-end demo model brought in: no GPS, and lacking few bells & whistles) )recently. The car has the same 1.6L engine as the MINI Cooper.</p><p></p><p>Comparing it with the MINI (Cooper/One):</p><p></p><p>Ride comfort: 207cc has a harder ride (suspension is harder/sportier), but otherwise ok.</p><p></p><p>Noise level: 207cc engine noise significantly louder than the MINIs. Insufficient soundproofing?</p><p></p><p>"Pickup" ability going uphill: Felt similar to the MINI One (1.4L), with perhaps a tiny tad more power. MINI Cooper wins hands-down. The extra weight of the 207cc really hurt it here. Nonetheless, it should be ok compared with most cars out there. It only feels underpowered if comparing it with the E90s or similar levels.</p><p></p><p>Smoothness: MINI wins hands down, probably due to the 6-speed gearbox. 207cc has a 4-speed gearbox (tiptronic, so its similar to the MINI but without the extra gears). The lack of the 2 gears made the ride jerkier, and probably partly accounts for the higher fuel consumption.</p><p></p><p>Space: MINI wins hands down. The rear seats in the 207cc are only fit for shopping bags or backpacks. You have to be a contortionist to fit back there.</p><p></p><p>Fuel consumption: MINI One & Cooper wins easily (according to internet research).</p><p></p><p>Other Bits & Pieces:</p><p>1. 207cc has a very light steering, reminds me of the Hondas (Civic/Accord). MINI steering while lighter than a E90, feels like a BMW.</p><p>2. Dash space - MINI has a lot of storage space</p><p>3. Bells & whistles - the way data is displayed on the ICE, speedometer, etc. just feels more luxurious/easier to read on the MINI.</p><p></p><p>Conclusion:</p><p>MINI One/Cooper is a much better VFM buy. For about a few thousand more (MINI One, promotion price RM163k, regular price RM175k), the MINI One is a better buy for a car with similar power yet lower consumption and smoother driving characteristics. The fact that the MINI Cooper has the same engine as the 207cc, shows that the engine isn't everything. The MINI's soundproofing and 6-speed gearbox makes a huge difference in the driving experience.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Traveler, post: 309162, member: 7248"] Out of curiosity, test drove the Peugeot 207cc (approximately RM155k, new batch, lower spec than the original higher-end demo model brought in: no GPS, and lacking few bells & whistles) )recently. The car has the same 1.6L engine as the MINI Cooper. Comparing it with the MINI (Cooper/One): Ride comfort: 207cc has a harder ride (suspension is harder/sportier), but otherwise ok. Noise level: 207cc engine noise significantly louder than the MINIs. Insufficient soundproofing? "Pickup" ability going uphill: Felt similar to the MINI One (1.4L), with perhaps a tiny tad more power. MINI Cooper wins hands-down. The extra weight of the 207cc really hurt it here. Nonetheless, it should be ok compared with most cars out there. It only feels underpowered if comparing it with the E90s or similar levels. Smoothness: MINI wins hands down, probably due to the 6-speed gearbox. 207cc has a 4-speed gearbox (tiptronic, so its similar to the MINI but without the extra gears). The lack of the 2 gears made the ride jerkier, and probably partly accounts for the higher fuel consumption. Space: MINI wins hands down. The rear seats in the 207cc are only fit for shopping bags or backpacks. You have to be a contortionist to fit back there. Fuel consumption: MINI One & Cooper wins easily (according to internet research). Other Bits & Pieces: 1. 207cc has a very light steering, reminds me of the Hondas (Civic/Accord). MINI steering while lighter than a E90, feels like a BMW. 2. Dash space - MINI has a lot of storage space 3. Bells & whistles - the way data is displayed on the ICE, speedometer, etc. just feels more luxurious/easier to read on the MINI. Conclusion: MINI One/Cooper is a much better VFM buy. For about a few thousand more (MINI One, promotion price RM163k, regular price RM175k), the MINI One is a better buy for a car with similar power yet lower consumption and smoother driving characteristics. The fact that the MINI Cooper has the same engine as the 207cc, shows that the engine isn't everything. The MINI's soundproofing and 6-speed gearbox makes a huge difference in the driving experience. [/QUOTE]
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