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<blockquote data-quote="f8." data-source="post: 102973" data-attributes="member: 923"><p>all else being equal the weight distribution of a car will determine its attitude once it has taken a stance- a front heavy car will push wide whereas a mid engined or rear engined car will have the mass bias at the rear start pushing it into oversteer.</p><p></p><p>on a 50:50 car once you have settled in mid corner and the car has taken a set, you will find it a lot more neutral when you are neither accelerating nor decelerating in the forward direction.</p><p></p><p>which makes sense for 50:50 cars to enter it under moderate braking, holding a steady speed mid bend(so all traction is apportioned to lateral grip) and then accelerating towards the straight ahead (transferring freed grip from lateral forces into propelling forward).</p><p></p><p>anyways, the 911 is superior to some because of its lack of mass in front, thus making it very positive on turn it unlike a front engined carr necc. you will find that it is a lot more eager to steer into a bend than the m3.</p><p></p><p>and then coming out of bend it has so much more grip that front engined cars and thus the saying slow in fast out, which applies generally but especially so for the 911.</p><p></p><p>i suspect this is how people overcook the 911 by entering too fast. in most cars a degree of reluctance or understeer will prevent going into a rotational turn too soon whereas in the 911, the lack of mass makes it turn in far more responsively, and couple that to a lot of momentum at the rear results in the pendulum effect.</p><p></p><p>but used wisely the 911's setup essentially makes you brake harder going into a bend, but also allows power to be applied sooner and thus achieve a higher straightahead speed.</p><p></p><p>as for bmw's, i know for a fact the 318s with the lighter engine has the battery in the engine compartment whereas the heavier 325 and 328 has the battery in the rear seat. don't think the marketing man decided on that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="f8., post: 102973, member: 923"] all else being equal the weight distribution of a car will determine its attitude once it has taken a stance- a front heavy car will push wide whereas a mid engined or rear engined car will have the mass bias at the rear start pushing it into oversteer. on a 50:50 car once you have settled in mid corner and the car has taken a set, you will find it a lot more neutral when you are neither accelerating nor decelerating in the forward direction. which makes sense for 50:50 cars to enter it under moderate braking, holding a steady speed mid bend(so all traction is apportioned to lateral grip) and then accelerating towards the straight ahead (transferring freed grip from lateral forces into propelling forward). anyways, the 911 is superior to some because of its lack of mass in front, thus making it very positive on turn it unlike a front engined carr necc. you will find that it is a lot more eager to steer into a bend than the m3. and then coming out of bend it has so much more grip that front engined cars and thus the saying slow in fast out, which applies generally but especially so for the 911. i suspect this is how people overcook the 911 by entering too fast. in most cars a degree of reluctance or understeer will prevent going into a rotational turn too soon whereas in the 911, the lack of mass makes it turn in far more responsively, and couple that to a lot of momentum at the rear results in the pendulum effect. but used wisely the 911's setup essentially makes you brake harder going into a bend, but also allows power to be applied sooner and thus achieve a higher straightahead speed. as for bmw's, i know for a fact the 318s with the lighter engine has the battery in the engine compartment whereas the heavier 325 and 328 has the battery in the rear seat. don't think the marketing man decided on that. [/QUOTE]
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