Liqui Moly Ceratec - anyone used this before?

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As the topic says, anyone here uses Liqui Moly Ceratec on their BMW engines? Is it recommended and how was it? Please also state your engine type if you have used it :cool:
 
I have used it on my diesel N47T engine. You will feel that the engine runs quieter after a few hundred KM. Lasts between 30k-50k km (50k km from the bottle, 30k km recommended by the workshop), just pour the whole bottle in after service. Proven to protect the engine in cold starts and even without engine oil.

After run in, my wife asked why suddenly more power...
 
Thanks Benedict. I can't seem to find alot of information from Google about people using Ceratec on their BMW's so hence this thread. I just want to see if any brothers here have them before I decided to pour a can into my engine :)
 
BenedictC;800722 said:
After run in, my wife asked why suddenly more power...

Ben,
I just cant stop myself from saying this.." good that your wife noticed the xtra power"....lol
 
I couldn't find much info either. Here are general info which I came across last time. There are a whole bunch of YouTube videos which are pretty interesting including LM Jetclean..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmK1NUqnaZ4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

http://www.syncoptima.com/blog/2012/06/27/liqui-moly-ceratec-long-term-review-this-sht-really-works/


Originally Posted By: Liqui-Moly
CERA TEC
Motor oil additive
With high-tech ceramic anti-wear protection

How does CERA TEC work?
The graphite-like structure of the ceramic particles enables them to fill in the roughness present in the metal, thereby preventing direct metal-on-metal contact. An active chemical (friction modifier) utilizes the existing friction energy to ensure flowing i.e. non-abrasive – smoothing, annealing the friction and bearing points.

CERA TEC is a suspension based on a microceramic solid lubricant and chemical active agents in mineral oil. This combination reduces friction and protects the engine and transmission against wear. This in turn prevents expensive repairs and prolongs the life of the assemblies.

CERA TEC offers high mechanical and thermal stability, ensuring outstanding lubrication even under the toughest conditions. Engine and transmission noise are reduced.
It saves energy, reduces fuel consumption and thus also pollutant emissions.

CERA TEC reacts directly with the surface of the metal and protects your engine for up to 50,000 kilometers - even with the oil being changed during that period.

Properties of CERA TEC
CERA TEC is self-mixing and compatible with all standard motor oils. It is ideal for use in oil-lubricated transmissions, pumps and compressors. Also tested for vehicles
with turbochargers, catalytic converters or particle filters. In new vehicles, CERA TEC supports engine break-in and protects against excessive wear. With a particle size of only 0.2 μm, it is absolutely compatible with all fi lters. Do not use in automatic transmissions and motorbikes with a wet clutch!

How is CERA TEC applied?
- direct addition to the motor or transmission oil (cold or warm)
- ideally, pour in together with fresh oil when changing the oil
- otherwise apply when there is at least 5,000 km to go before the next oil change so that CERA TEC has plenty of time in which to have an effect
- 300 ml is suffi cient for up to 5 liters of motor oil
- the optimal dosage is about 6 % of the total oil fill quantity
- oil change intervals as per the service documents of the vehicle to be followed

Test arrangement image with two interlocking gear wheels.

Who is APL?
Formed in 1989, APL is a neutral and independent, internationally renowned development service provider,
working for a worldwide client base from the automobile, oil and additives industries. The company is specialized in the mechanics of engine and drive trains and their operating supplies. On nearly 145 state of the art engine and component test rigs, more than 700 employees apply the latest measurement technology.

What was tested?
The APL experts determined the relative scuffing load capacity of lubrication oils. Between the edges of the teeth, rolling off and sliding occur at the same time. Due to unfavorable operating conditions the lubricant film can break down between the tooth edges. This leads to short-term local fusion and disintegration of the edges, so-called scuffing, which causes damage to the smooth surface of the teeth edges.
Possible consequences: higher engine and transmission noise until failure of the gear wheels occurs.

Test sequence
On the vehicle distortion test bench the test oil was mixed with 6 per cent CERA TEC. With each test sequence the weight, and thereby the force level, on the sensitive transmission gear wheels was increased. The aim of the experiment is to reach the damage force level. This level is reached when the sum of all damage caused to the teeth of the gear wheels is more than 20 millimeters. The test is then ended. The reference oil came up to damage force level 4; the oil mixed with CERA TEC reached as far as level 9, hence to more than double the level. CERA TEC markedly increases the power reserve, which confirms the anti-wear protection by
the fine ceramic particles, is how Dipl.-Ing. Peter Kunz, who supervised the test, summarizes the results. Kunz’s initial skepticism gave way: After the tests I was
amazed. The product has made everything, and I really mean everything, better.

Just the demand for APL’s expertise alone has been unusual. «LIQUI MOLY is the first company in the after-sales market that has been prepared to undergo voluntary tests», said Kunz. He is responsible for the testing of lubricants and fuels.

In short: CERA TEC reduces the amount of friction and thereby the wear. This in turn benefits the engine, which is under less load. This can result in a lower susceptibility to repair and longer service life.
 
Bro Irfan, I don't think there's really extra power from ceratec since it is only a friction reducing agent. But then my wife doesn't know I'm using it... Maybe Puzzled la :rolleyes:

Geoff, ever heard of Ceratec causing Plug Fouling? It seems some old engines which burns oil may have leaks and the ceramic forms a coating around the spark plugs and reduces the intensity.
 
Atmosphere got some promo on now, OM gets additional discount :rock:

I got mine from another place many thousand KM ago..

shiva73;800753 said:
Where to get this ?
 
Have you heard of SLICK50? Guess same issue may happened to our engine. As for me it's too late I only read after I used LM
 
I also read somewhere that SLICK50 caused harden rubber parts or seals hence cause oil
 
I remember from somewhere it has some agent to make the seals moist. Or is it another LM product?

anaksarawak;800769 said:
I also read somewhere that SLICK50 caused harden rubber parts or seals hence cause oil
 
Ceratec is awesome. I use it on my N52. Get it from Atmosphere. OMs get discounts.
 
Did my oil change on my 36 then put in ceratec .... Engine felt smoother of course it could just be the new oil change. So its hard to say whether ceratec really works or not. You can put it at mid interval say 3k km after oil change and see whether there is any improvement. Ravenol 10W60 in combination with ceratec.
 
Hi, used LM for my e46 N42 engine.. After run in my engine feels better and quieter especially in the morning.. Shall try until 30k and see how it goes.. Gotta do more reading on the effect of ceratec.. Already done when i did jetclean.. Hope nothig happens touch wood..
 
Fadhlan;800821 said:
Ceratec is awesome. I use it on my N52. Get it from Atmosphere. OMs get discounts.

bro fadhlan,

How much it cost after discount? Just to compare with other agent.
 
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