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Message: <blockquote data-quote="plutoII" data-source="post: 310203" data-attributes="member: 14411">Totally agree with you, Maxxsp. The concept of "100% swirl free" was propagated by mftrs, and embraced by many enthusiasts. I agree with you that it's not necessary to hv a flat paint totally free from orange peel. It's not easy to maintain a car like that. Even my own car has some micro fine scratches, and I just live with it. Practicality is important, and this is what I preach to customers. Unfortunately, on the pro detailing side, not everyone shares this belief. Many hv been brainwashed by the swirl free and OP-free concept, and demands it. No orange peel, no swirls!!! Sigh!Anything less is unacceptable to them. Even worse, if this kind of result is not achieved, the detailer will be seen to be sub-standard. There was such a customer today who insisted on levelling the orange peel (sanding) on his Merc, and 100%swirl free results. I told him this was not practical but he insisted. Gave him what he insisted....and he paid BIIGG time for it!! i hv done my job, and wonder how he'll maintain it in this condition<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes    :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></blockquote>