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Message: <blockquote data-quote="plutoII" data-source="post: 310146" data-attributes="member: 14411">Maxx, thanks for your input. Klasse HGSG and Zaino Z2Pro cannot fill swirls. I did not refer to Z5 in my post. IMO, Z5 is not very effective in filling swirls (even though it claims it can), and in my post above, I was referring to Z2Pro. The added brightness imparted to the clearcoat makes any swirls even more obvious.  It is logical and common sense to ensure the paint shd be in optimal condition (absence of swirls and other problems) before using these products. This will help produce optimal results. I know anyone can just blindly slather on Zaino or Klasse on any average paintwork...but I am talking about a proper, professional approach that gives optimal results. Before you apply extensive makeup to a model, wouldn't you want to ensure her skin is free from serious problems first? I think that's very logical. As the popular saying goes.....surface prep contributes the most to any detailing efforts. It's all in the prep.  Before spending time and money to apply all these products, and hoping for good results, it is logical and simple common sense to ensure the surface is as optimal as possible. Any form of sanding is certainly not a mandatory thing...on your car.....or on cars with good paint finishes. I also did not say that orange peel can affect bonding.Many customers are brain-washed by all the wetsanding vidoes and education touted by mftrs, and start hunting for orange peel. That's where, if they insist the orange peel "has to go", sanding will be necessary. I don't think anyone enjoys sanding, and I certainly don't recommend it. However, if absolutely necessary, properly done, and then properly compounded, and applied with the correct cosmetics, the results are very impressive. The customer is king. In the detailing line, I face all kinds of cars with shitty paintwork that require extensive correction. It's not everyday I get enthusiasts cars with fantastic paintwork. In certain cases, sanding is necessary to produce results that'll impress the customer...especially those who've learned about orange peel. It's surprising how many owners who don't know much about detailing, started to talk to me about orange peel and requesting for sanding on their cars (wow!!!)....and not even knowing the cost and time involved cos the websites never mentioned it!!!To me, I will not trust to layer just ANY wax over Zaino as I believe it affects durability.  Over the years, I hv tried topping Zaino Z2/Z2Pro with Megs 26, Megs 16, Soft 99 pure waxes, Swissvax Concorso, Collinite etc. I hv tried a few brands that did not give much problems. Also, once you wax on top of Zaino, you can no longer layer Zaino anymore.</blockquote>

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