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<blockquote data-quote="ALBundy" data-source="post: 175997" data-attributes="member: 15"><p>Dude, this has nothing to do with one's beliefs. Keep it simple. By the way, I am a god fearing man.</p><p> </p><p>The haze is man made, simple as that. Need not elaborate on how lucky we are, and how we should be grateful to a have big piece of land called Sumatra sheltering us from tsunamis and what not. Its irrelevant to this discussion.</p><p> </p><p>There is more than one way of clearing the jungle, the Indonesians chose the cheapest and easiest way. They definitely have to be more responsible to millions of people in their neighbouring countries, not forgetting their own people. Yes, there is a dire need for more land for plantation, but to do it at the expense of millions of people who are suffering with the haze??? They can clear the land when the wind is blowing towards the Indian Ocean, no one lives on the ocean. </p><p> </p><p>Look, my nephew was hopitalised for a serious case of brochitis and nearly died, he is only 7 months old. He is still in the hospital as we speak. I have friends with asthma, and they too are suffering with the haze. And I am sure there are plenty of other residents in the Asean region suffering from similar fate.</p><p> </p><p>Your arguments are flawed. <em>The end definitely does not justifies the mean</em>.</p><p> </p><p>Whatever we want to do to improve our country, economy and etc shouldnt be at the expense of others. If an action is morally bad in itself (<em>burning jungles ---> choking others and posing health hazards that will take years to manifest</em>), it cannot really serve a good end (<em>people dying and massive economic losses despite your claim of more food for the Indonesians</em>), even though it may on the surface appear to do so. <u>But since the good society involves justice for all, a government which employs unjust means defeats the end it pretends to serve. You cannot use bad means for a good end any more than you can build a good house out of bad materials.</u></p><p> </p><p><em>Jiran sepakat membawa muafakat!!</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ALBundy, post: 175997, member: 15"] Dude, this has nothing to do with one's beliefs. Keep it simple. By the way, I am a god fearing man. The haze is man made, simple as that. Need not elaborate on how lucky we are, and how we should be grateful to a have big piece of land called Sumatra sheltering us from tsunamis and what not. Its irrelevant to this discussion. There is more than one way of clearing the jungle, the Indonesians chose the cheapest and easiest way. They definitely have to be more responsible to millions of people in their neighbouring countries, not forgetting their own people. Yes, there is a dire need for more land for plantation, but to do it at the expense of millions of people who are suffering with the haze??? They can clear the land when the wind is blowing towards the Indian Ocean, no one lives on the ocean. Look, my nephew was hopitalised for a serious case of brochitis and nearly died, he is only 7 months old. He is still in the hospital as we speak. I have friends with asthma, and they too are suffering with the haze. And I am sure there are plenty of other residents in the Asean region suffering from similar fate. Your arguments are flawed. [I]The end definitely does not justifies the mean[/I]. Whatever we want to do to improve our country, economy and etc shouldnt be at the expense of others. If an action is morally bad in itself ([I]burning jungles ---> choking others and posing health hazards that will take years to manifest[/I]), it cannot really serve a good end ([I]people dying and massive economic losses despite your claim of more food for the Indonesians[/I]), even though it may on the surface appear to do so. [U]But since the good society involves justice for all, a government which employs unjust means defeats the end it pretends to serve. You cannot use bad means for a good end any more than you can build a good house out of bad materials.[/U] [I]Jiran sepakat membawa muafakat!![/I] [/QUOTE]
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