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Message: <blockquote data-quote="macdaque" data-source="post: 511661" data-attributes="member: 2704"><p>Sorry to hear ben10, hope it wasn't raining when you had family in the car for the entire 8 hours! For those who don't know, if the a/c has problems, i.e. not enough gas or too much gas, the heater comes on. Cannot switch off, even with a/c power off, it is like an oven hot enough to fry an egg, literally. The surfaces around the a/c will be too hot to touch even. Even when fan and a/c switched off, the hot hair still on.... so no way of escaping the very hot air. That has been the problem for all models as I understand. So, when u hv a/c problem, hope that it is not raining and that you can cool the cabin a bit by leaving windows open.</p></blockquote><p></p>