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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Schwepps" data-source="post: 362100" data-attributes="member: 3592">Astro, I did some checking and found out there are only 4 major PAO producers in the world, and Shell isn't one of them. They are BP Chemical, Chevron-Phillips Chemical, Neste, and Exxon-Mobil. And it's Helix Ultra AB that's on the BMW list of approved oils, not Ultra. So it would seem that Shell has also joined the marketing hype bandwagon and slapped a LL01 on a mineral oil. Makes me wonder about their Vee-Power claims now... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes    :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />You change your oil at every 10k, so there's no harm in using your favourite Yankee oil bro. :wink:</blockquote>