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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Schwepps" data-source="post: 361720" data-attributes="member: 3592">BMWs is right. I was near the Taman Tun Shell so I sauntered in to check. They have Helix Ultra 5W-40 on the shelves. Approvals: API SM/CF, ACEA A3/B4, BMW LL-01, MB 229.5, VW, Porsche, Ferrari, etc. So it's good for BMWs, Mercs and fiercer cars.4l bottle RM209, 1l bottle RM58. Cost of oil change plus 20-point check...a whole RM8. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> So if you bring your own BMW oil filter, a simple mid-way oil change at TTDI Shell should cost 1/2 the cost at the dealers. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />This is a good benchmark prce for a quality-assured fully-synth. Anything costing less at retail is suspect because PAO base oil is expensive and is made in only a limited no of plants in the world. Not all the oil companies make PAO. Even Petronas with it's recent European refining and blending acquisitions is not a PAO manufacturer.Must look in some other Shells. I know I've seen Ultra AB 5w-30 in retail somewhere... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite5" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":confused:" /></blockquote>

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