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<blockquote data-quote="MANAMOHAN" data-source="post: 221331" data-attributes="member: 2183"><p>Nice pics of the new A4 guys. It does look hot. Much nicer than the A5, I think. Regarding the current E90 325i, it does have a lovely high revving engine. I'm sure owners appreciate the sounds it makes at 7k revs. And how the looks grow with time. I always say its the least bungled of Bangle's creation, thou some would say its the old Fiat Coupe instead. Anyway, the A4 has a fantastic shove that comes at less than 2k, all the way upto 6200revs. Much more useful in day to day driving, don't you guys think? I also think the the BM straight 6 engine thing is over-hyped, any old Cefiro V6 is smoother. BMW's take on the matter is puzzling, it pursued the N/A agenda for 30 years and scoffed at its competitors lightly turbocharged and supercharged engines. This, despite BMW making one of the worlds most powerful engines, a 1.5l turbocharged engine producing 1500hp for a Formula 1 Brabhams, in 1985 I think. BMW's top brass in the '90s made disparaging remarks about the previous RS cars turbocharged engines. The very idea of turbo-charging was revolting to them, saying it would ruin the engine character. Similarly, they said a V8 engine in the M3 would ruin it, make it nose heavy and upset the car's handling. And yet recently, it came out with a V8 M3 and a twin turbo 335i. But in typical BMW fashion, they have made it seem like it was their own idea all along... Having said that, cars evolve, so do their manufacturers. But a lot of car buyers only seem to be aware of the hype surrounding their own car models, having scarce knowledge of the history of cars. Even the history of their own car manufacturers. Hence the amusing statement about how a turbo 4 pot will never better a Munich sweet 6. And just like how your wives and kids who found the BMW thrilling, mine were bowled over by the looks and feel of the Audi, and certainly its straight line power. It behaved well, performed well, and there were no shoddy bits or things out of place no matter how hard we looked. The paint, quality of chrome, dials, switches, door lining, seats, everything. Every part I'd come into contact with on a day to day basis made me smile. The door handle, the physical feel of the steering, the gear knob, the engine response, the brake travel...the Audi felt like a work of art. The BMs we tested were fidgetty, at traffic lights it seems to want to inch forwards, despite foot firmly on brakes. The brakes were also grabby (although superb in rapid stops), ride quality was lacking, and it didn't acquit itself well over pot holed surfaces...probably due to the run flat tyres. There were also several glaring examples of sub-optimal workmanship. Perhaps its a CKD thing. Regarding ownership prospects, well, this is a BMW forum. I've owned an e36 coupe for many years now, and won't contemplate selling it, despite the bad times & phenemonal amount of money spent on getting it right. It has all the characteristic plus points of a Bimmer, plus it has a raw aggressiveness to it that somehow got diluted in the e46. Suffice to say, I haven't gotten my hands on an E92. The 335i seems a sizzler...despite the turbo eh? But it is a sweet, 6 cylinder Munich turbo engine, so that should make it all right. Cheers guys.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MANAMOHAN, post: 221331, member: 2183"] Nice pics of the new A4 guys. It does look hot. Much nicer than the A5, I think. Regarding the current E90 325i, it does have a lovely high revving engine. I'm sure owners appreciate the sounds it makes at 7k revs. And how the looks grow with time. I always say its the least bungled of Bangle's creation, thou some would say its the old Fiat Coupe instead. Anyway, the A4 has a fantastic shove that comes at less than 2k, all the way upto 6200revs. Much more useful in day to day driving, don't you guys think? I also think the the BM straight 6 engine thing is over-hyped, any old Cefiro V6 is smoother. BMW's take on the matter is puzzling, it pursued the N/A agenda for 30 years and scoffed at its competitors lightly turbocharged and supercharged engines. This, despite BMW making one of the worlds most powerful engines, a 1.5l turbocharged engine producing 1500hp for a Formula 1 Brabhams, in 1985 I think. BMW's top brass in the '90s made disparaging remarks about the previous RS cars turbocharged engines. The very idea of turbo-charging was revolting to them, saying it would ruin the engine character. Similarly, they said a V8 engine in the M3 would ruin it, make it nose heavy and upset the car's handling. And yet recently, it came out with a V8 M3 and a twin turbo 335i. But in typical BMW fashion, they have made it seem like it was their own idea all along... Having said that, cars evolve, so do their manufacturers. But a lot of car buyers only seem to be aware of the hype surrounding their own car models, having scarce knowledge of the history of cars. Even the history of their own car manufacturers. Hence the amusing statement about how a turbo 4 pot will never better a Munich sweet 6. And just like how your wives and kids who found the BMW thrilling, mine were bowled over by the looks and feel of the Audi, and certainly its straight line power. It behaved well, performed well, and there were no shoddy bits or things out of place no matter how hard we looked. The paint, quality of chrome, dials, switches, door lining, seats, everything. Every part I'd come into contact with on a day to day basis made me smile. The door handle, the physical feel of the steering, the gear knob, the engine response, the brake travel...the Audi felt like a work of art. The BMs we tested were fidgetty, at traffic lights it seems to want to inch forwards, despite foot firmly on brakes. The brakes were also grabby (although superb in rapid stops), ride quality was lacking, and it didn't acquit itself well over pot holed surfaces...probably due to the run flat tyres. There were also several glaring examples of sub-optimal workmanship. Perhaps its a CKD thing. Regarding ownership prospects, well, this is a BMW forum. I've owned an e36 coupe for many years now, and won't contemplate selling it, despite the bad times & phenemonal amount of money spent on getting it right. It has all the characteristic plus points of a Bimmer, plus it has a raw aggressiveness to it that somehow got diluted in the e46. Suffice to say, I haven't gotten my hands on an E92. The 335i seems a sizzler...despite the turbo eh? But it is a sweet, 6 cylinder Munich turbo engine, so that should make it all right. Cheers guys. [/QUOTE]
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