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<blockquote data-quote="okow" data-source="post: 133200" data-attributes="member: 14"><p>These statements were taken from 2 sites that I searched...one on a VW and the other BMW. Have a read and make your own conclusion. I guess we are not alone.</p><p></p><p>"At my last BMWCCA meeting I read an actual letter from the chief engineer for ZF transmissions used in the BMW's.</p><p>He said that these trannies were not designed for any type of lifetime fluid- period and recommended the fluid/filter be changed every 60K miles. No exceptions. He mentioned in the letter that he did not know that BMW was using a lifetime fluid and strongly urged them not to do that after discovering this.</p><p></p><p>"My mechanic (BimmerWerks, Harahan LA) is a member of a world wide tech group of BMW mechanics and shop owners. They all agree that the lifetime tranny fluid is BUNK. </p><p>This particular ZF engineer is part of that group too.</p><p></p><p>Note- if you ever have to have your tranny worked on, and the fluid is drained-- the BMW dealer will reuse the fluid!! Yes- pur it right back in! Incredible but true. Only if you insist, will they use new fluid (about 150.00 a bottle- @ 2 per tranny) </p><p></p><p>Coincidentally, the Lifetime fluid is made right here in nearby New Orleans LA, and shipped to Germany. Our shop looked into buying directly from them, but were unsuccesful."</p><p></p><p></p><p>and the other:</p><p></p><p>"We all know that synthetics are much better lubricants than mineral-base oils. They protect better and last longer... BUT THEY DON'T LAST FOREVER... as VW implies with their "Lifetime" automatic transmission fluid (ATF). In a legal context, "Lifetime" really means the duration of "VW Powertrain Warranty". Upon its expiration, the $JOKE$ is on you.</p><p>After having done some reading about VW's mysterious lifetime ATF, I just replaced the ATF and filter for my NB. The filter & oil pan were coated with a layer of sediment of shiny, metallic shavings. I didn't take any pictures but here's a thread posted by an Audi owner who had sent his used ATF to a lab for an oil analysis...</p><p>(note: Audi & VW use the same ATF):</p><p><a href="http://forums.audiworld.com/a8/msgs/22083.phtml" target="_blank">http://forums.audiworld.com/a8/msgs/22083.phtml</a> ... look at the oil specs"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="okow, post: 133200, member: 14"] These statements were taken from 2 sites that I searched...one on a VW and the other BMW. Have a read and make your own conclusion. I guess we are not alone. "At my last BMWCCA meeting I read an actual letter from the chief engineer for ZF transmissions used in the BMW's. He said that these trannies were not designed for any type of lifetime fluid- period and recommended the fluid/filter be changed every 60K miles. No exceptions. He mentioned in the letter that he did not know that BMW was using a lifetime fluid and strongly urged them not to do that after discovering this. "My mechanic (BimmerWerks, Harahan LA) is a member of a world wide tech group of BMW mechanics and shop owners. They all agree that the lifetime tranny fluid is BUNK. This particular ZF engineer is part of that group too. Note- if you ever have to have your tranny worked on, and the fluid is drained-- the BMW dealer will reuse the fluid!! Yes- pur it right back in! Incredible but true. Only if you insist, will they use new fluid (about 150.00 a bottle- @ 2 per tranny) Coincidentally, the Lifetime fluid is made right here in nearby New Orleans LA, and shipped to Germany. Our shop looked into buying directly from them, but were unsuccesful." and the other: "We all know that synthetics are much better lubricants than mineral-base oils. They protect better and last longer... BUT THEY DON'T LAST FOREVER... as VW implies with their "Lifetime" automatic transmission fluid (ATF). In a legal context, "Lifetime" really means the duration of "VW Powertrain Warranty". Upon its expiration, the $JOKE$ is on you. After having done some reading about VW's mysterious lifetime ATF, I just replaced the ATF and filter for my NB. The filter & oil pan were coated with a layer of sediment of shiny, metallic shavings. I didn't take any pictures but here's a thread posted by an Audi owner who had sent his used ATF to a lab for an oil analysis... (note: Audi & VW use the same ATF): [url=http://forums.audiworld.com/a8/msgs/22083.phtml]http://forums.audiworld.com/a8/msgs/22083.phtml[/url] ... look at the oil specs" [/QUOTE]
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