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<blockquote data-quote="wobbles" data-source="post: 596265" data-attributes="member: 24637"><p>Mr. President, Vice-President & the respected Committee Members of BMWCM.</p><p></p><p>I thank all of you for your hospitality thus far, and for the kind generosity that your Club has extended me - a guest, a foreigner, who may not be all familiar with your customs and practices. As a Singaporean, I will apologize in advance if my postings in anyway, have offended your Malaysian sensitivities & sensibilities, as some of the insinuations from your members have taken me by surprise. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't ever recall having 'asked' for a discount. It's quite different proposing an idea for, IMHO, the greater good of Club & opening up the possibility of a different avenue of revenue vs. a personal plea for 'discounts'.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Firstly, it wasn't a calculation, secondly, it wasn't a complaint, and thirdly, my suggestion about overseas/affiliate membership had nothing to do with either! I fail to understand - Country Clubs here have an associate membership for potential full joinees, Professions like Medicine & Law have associate membership for medical students or law pupils, or even fellow professionals from other countries - pending these same professionals joining as full members. My suggestion, gentlemen, was to open up a potential portal for a greater number of potential joinees - and I'm quite taken aback that ay39 would put these insinuations in what was an honest, sincere suggestion.</p><p></p><p>Then, of course, the other official members showed their true colors by hopping onto the bandwagon. Your ex-VP, t2ribena, sarcastically posted that I should ask for a waiver for the joining fees, or be inducted by invitation.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>At the end of the day, whether I join or not is a matter of dollars or cents (some of the members here have rightly insinuated - what is RM300? It is less than a tankful of petrol for a hungry F02). It will depend on whether I derive a sense of belonging to this Club through the Forum or not. Unless, of course, there's a remark in the constitution that guests cannot offer suggestions, or ideas from guests are automatically resigned to the trash bin, or guests from Singapore are not welcome – or, how about this: 'wobbles' from Singapore alone is unwelcome - otherwise, as far as my reading and understanding of Internet Forums go, I have as much as right to voice my opinion as lamoo, t2ribena & the other official members here have to object to it.</p><p></p><p>And, if this is the kind of welcome I get as a guest (from some of these more, shall we say, vocal dissenters amongst the official members), I wonder how that would suddenly change after I paid my fees and have my nickname transformed into blue?</p><p></p><p>I merely put forward my point of view, and I appreciate some of the feedback the members have given. The hallmark of cordial discussion and intelligent debate is that the proposal is attacked, not the proposer. Unfortunately, that is sorely missing in some of the more, shall we say, enthusiastic official members of the Forum.</p><p></p><p>I'm sorry I've taken up your bandwidth, and I'm sorry I've wasted your time.</p><p></p><p>This shall be my last posting on your excellent Forum. I wish all of you the very best, and I thank you for your erstwhile hospitality once again.</p><p></p><p>Sincerely yours,</p><p>wobbles</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wobbles, post: 596265, member: 24637"] Mr. President, Vice-President & the respected Committee Members of BMWCM. I thank all of you for your hospitality thus far, and for the kind generosity that your Club has extended me - a guest, a foreigner, who may not be all familiar with your customs and practices. As a Singaporean, I will apologize in advance if my postings in anyway, have offended your Malaysian sensitivities & sensibilities, as some of the insinuations from your members have taken me by surprise. I don't ever recall having 'asked' for a discount. It's quite different proposing an idea for, IMHO, the greater good of Club & opening up the possibility of a different avenue of revenue vs. a personal plea for 'discounts'. Firstly, it wasn't a calculation, secondly, it wasn't a complaint, and thirdly, my suggestion about overseas/affiliate membership had nothing to do with either! I fail to understand - Country Clubs here have an associate membership for potential full joinees, Professions like Medicine & Law have associate membership for medical students or law pupils, or even fellow professionals from other countries - pending these same professionals joining as full members. My suggestion, gentlemen, was to open up a potential portal for a greater number of potential joinees - and I'm quite taken aback that ay39 would put these insinuations in what was an honest, sincere suggestion. Then, of course, the other official members showed their true colors by hopping onto the bandwagon. Your ex-VP, t2ribena, sarcastically posted that I should ask for a waiver for the joining fees, or be inducted by invitation. At the end of the day, whether I join or not is a matter of dollars or cents (some of the members here have rightly insinuated - what is RM300? It is less than a tankful of petrol for a hungry F02). It will depend on whether I derive a sense of belonging to this Club through the Forum or not. Unless, of course, there's a remark in the constitution that guests cannot offer suggestions, or ideas from guests are automatically resigned to the trash bin, or guests from Singapore are not welcome – or, how about this: 'wobbles' from Singapore alone is unwelcome - otherwise, as far as my reading and understanding of Internet Forums go, I have as much as right to voice my opinion as lamoo, t2ribena & the other official members here have to object to it. And, if this is the kind of welcome I get as a guest (from some of these more, shall we say, vocal dissenters amongst the official members), I wonder how that would suddenly change after I paid my fees and have my nickname transformed into blue? I merely put forward my point of view, and I appreciate some of the feedback the members have given. The hallmark of cordial discussion and intelligent debate is that the proposal is attacked, not the proposer. Unfortunately, that is sorely missing in some of the more, shall we say, enthusiastic official members of the Forum. I'm sorry I've taken up your bandwidth, and I'm sorry I've wasted your time. This shall be my last posting on your excellent Forum. I wish all of you the very best, and I thank you for your erstwhile hospitality once again. Sincerely yours, wobbles [/QUOTE]
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