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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tIANcI" data-source="post: 702646" data-attributes="member: 25377">Alim ... Okay it's like this. You paid to participate in an event called BimmerFest 2013. You paid so you can park your car in an area to enjoy gathering with other enthusiasts who all decided to pay so they can park their cars in an area to enjoy gathering with other enthisiasts too la. If you did not pay, then you cannot park your car in that area, you have to park in one of the public car parks only mah.So you paid, you went, you got to park your car in the event area, you got to gather with other enthusiasts who went, also paid and parked their cars in the event area. That means you got what you bargained for mah.BimmerFest as an event must be owned by someone or some corporation or some unincorporated association. You know why? It's like this:- if not next year someone decides to hold a BimmerFest then who has the intellectual property rights to the name la? What if because it's successful this year and then someone steals it for their benefit next year, calling it BimmerFest, thus confusing this year's participant that it's the same organiser and the participants are keen to join in because the BimmerFest 2013 was a good event? Cetak Rompak nie!- when you apply for the event permits (council, police, MACP, PPM, etc) you need to put a name to the event organisers. It cannot be called 'A group of BMW enthusiasts who decided to gather and pay a fee to park their car in a certain area and enjoy with other enthusiasts'. Where got borang with that much space for you to fill up such a name?- also if you do not attribute the event to a single organiser how to go to court when a mishap happens la? Example, during the event say a tent falls over and injures perhaps Ramsing. He will want to sue someone for negligence. He cannot say sue 'A group of BMW enthusiasts who decided to gather and pay a fee to park their car in a certain area and enjoy with other enthusiasts'. That will be nuts la, very vague. Then it may also legally mean that he's suing himself if he was one of the kind souls who volunteered since its a collective thing. But more importantly, when suing the borang also dun have so much space to fill in 'A group of BMW enthusiasts who decided to gather and pay a fee to park their car in a certain area and enjoy with other enthusiasts'. So based on the above few things I said, the event has an owner and since there is an owner, the MBOR decided to hand the cert to the organiser rather than stating on the cert 'A group of BMW enthusiasts who decided to gather and pay a fee to park their car in a certain area and enjoy with other enthusiasts'. See the cert got not enuff space for that long name also ...- - - Updated - - -Alim ... Okay it's like this. You paid to participate in an event called BimmerFest 2013. You paid so you can park your car in an area to enjoy gathering with other enthusiasts who all decided to pay so they can park their cars in an area to enjoy gathering with other enthisiasts too la. If you did not pay, then you cannot park your car in that area, you have to park in one of the public car parks only mah.So you paid, you went, you got to park your car in the event area, you got to gather with other enthusiasts who went, also paid and parked their cars in the event area. That means you got what you bargained for mah.BimmerFest as an event must be owned by someone or some corporation or some unincorporated association. You know why? It's like this:- if not next year someone decides to hold a BimmerFest then who has the intellectual property rights to the name la? What if because it's successful this year and then someone steals it for their benefit next year, calling it BimmerFest, thus confusing this year's participant that it's the same organiser and the participants are keen to join in because the BimmerFest 2013 was a good event? Cetak Rompak nie!- when you apply for the event permits (council, police, MACP, PPM, etc) you need to put a name to the event organisers. It cannot be called 'A group of BMW enthusiasts who decided to gather and pay a fee to park their car in a certain area and enjoy with other enthusiasts'. Where got borang with that much space for you to fill up such a name?- also if you do not attribute the event to a single organiser how to go to court when a mishap happens la? Example, during the event say a tent falls over and injures perhaps Ramsing. He will want to sue someone for negligence. He cannot say sue 'A group of BMW enthusiasts who decided to gather and pay a fee to park their car in a certain area and enjoy with other enthusiasts'. That will be nuts la, very vague. Then it may also legally mean that he's suing himself if he was one of the kind souls who volunteered since its a collective thing. But more importantly, when suing the borang also dun have so much space to fill in 'A group of BMW enthusiasts who decided to gather and pay a fee to park their car in a certain area and enjoy with other enthusiasts'. So based on the above few things I said, the event has an owner and since there is an owner, the MBOR decided to hand the cert to the organiser rather than stating on the cert 'A group of BMW enthusiasts who decided to gather and pay a fee to park their car in a certain area and enjoy with other enthusiasts'. See the cert got not enuff space for that long name also ...</blockquote>

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