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<blockquote data-quote="Herr Odo" data-source="post: 728247" data-attributes="member: 43311"><p>Had some free time today so skipped around the Klang Valley to prepare the way for my E36 restoration plan codenamed Project Phoenix.</p><p> </p><p>Checked out Pro-garage in Sunway Damansara. They eyeballed my crimson red car and quoted RM3800 for metallic paints and RM4500 for Pearl White (first choice). I wanted the wing mirrors to be painted glossy black as contrast colour, so they say it's included in the price. Both bumpers need ketuk-ing and realignment and that's extra charge. I figured another RM500 to RM1000 should cover that. Entire job is expected to take 2 weeks.</p><p> </p><p>Heard from sources that Pro-Garage used to be good but lately cut corners (eg using cheaper materials when premium materials were agreed upon). I don't know how true that is so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps, 2014 Pro-Garage customers can share their opinions on this matter.</p><p> </p><p>Speaking of colours, I really love Pearl White but dread the amount of maintenance required since dirt easily shows up on the paintwork plus the annual ash deposits flying in courtesy of Sumatran forest fires (committed some say by Malaysian plantation companies....it's criminal, I know). I don't like loud colours at this point in my life; subtle and timeless colours like gunmetal gray, Midnight Blue or Estoril Blue are up my alley and are under consideration. </p><p> </p><p>What do you guys think? Should I go for White or settle for other "practical" colours?</p><p> </p><p>Headed to Bluegreen Motor Werks. Nathan and Mike drove my car and gave their 2-sens worth. Mike the front man knows what's he's talking about and inspires confidence. They also operate a parts shop upstairs and a paint shop in Klang. </p><p> </p><p>Project Phoenix is two stage:</p><p> </p><p>Stage 1: Get key mechanical parts in tip top condition ie engine, gearbox and suspension.</p><p> </p><p>Stage 2: </p><p> </p><p>a. Refurbish interior, repair/replace interior parts mentioned in this thread earlier and respray car with PPG Pearl White (RM5,500)</p><p> </p><p>b. Upgrade in-car stereo system, exhaust, change warped/wrinkled rear windscreen tint and if I'm not broke by then, upgrade stock wheels to BBS 15 inch/16 inch wheels.</p><p> </p><p>Mike quoted RM20K to RM25K to do Stage 1 and Stage 2a, an estimate that can swing lower or higher, depending on what needs changing after the car is stripped down. If capped at RM20K, engine work would only be limited to changing gaskets and cleaning up to prevents leaks (top overhaul). </p><p> </p><p>Here's where it gets interesting. The price quoted includes conversion of a GM 4-speed auto to 5-speed Getrag manual (if Mike can find it, he says E36 manuals are getting rare to source from overseas.....looking forward to one from Japan, where used cars are known to be low-milers) - the conversion is around RM5000+ and includes a 7-day warranty from Bluegreen. According to Mike, a Getrag manual is better than a ZF manual, which is more sensitive and not as robust or reliable as a Getrag.</p><p> </p><p>I like the way Bluegreen is upfront. If the price for the scope of work is too pricey for your taste, you have the option to reveal your budget and they will tell you what can be done within said budget.</p><p> </p><p>Bluegreen is shorthanded now, having lost some manpower and is advertising for apprentice and mechanics. As a result it has a few customer BMWs that are still awaiting to be worked on. Mike says he needs to clear the backlog first over the next few weeks and the earliest he can accept a new car for restoration is April/May. The job is expected to take 3 months.</p><p> </p><p>I know Bluegreen comes highly recommended by some senior forummers. Is Optimum Automotive of Kayu Ara and one called (if I'm not mistaken) Bavarian Motor Works located across the road from Optimum and on a hillock closer to Damansara Toll Plaza, of similar calibre - ie they pay attention to detail and don't take shortcuts while charging reasonable rates?</p><p> </p><p>I may use Bluegreen but for now, I'd would like to weigh the options out there before I push the GO button.</p><p> </p><p>I shall use this thread to document my restoration journey as and when I can find the time to do it. With pix, of course.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>More on Bluegreen Motor Werks here:</strong> <a href="http://www.therakyatpost.com/motoring/2014/11/13/trusted-bmw-specialist/#ixzz3RMLy3x6S" target="_blank">http://www.therakyatpost.com/motoring/2014/11/13/trusted-bmw-specialist/#ixzz3RMLy3x6S</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herr Odo, post: 728247, member: 43311"] Had some free time today so skipped around the Klang Valley to prepare the way for my E36 restoration plan codenamed Project Phoenix. Checked out Pro-garage in Sunway Damansara. They eyeballed my crimson red car and quoted RM3800 for metallic paints and RM4500 for Pearl White (first choice). I wanted the wing mirrors to be painted glossy black as contrast colour, so they say it's included in the price. Both bumpers need ketuk-ing and realignment and that's extra charge. I figured another RM500 to RM1000 should cover that. Entire job is expected to take 2 weeks. Heard from sources that Pro-Garage used to be good but lately cut corners (eg using cheaper materials when premium materials were agreed upon). I don't know how true that is so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps, 2014 Pro-Garage customers can share their opinions on this matter. Speaking of colours, I really love Pearl White but dread the amount of maintenance required since dirt easily shows up on the paintwork plus the annual ash deposits flying in courtesy of Sumatran forest fires (committed some say by Malaysian plantation companies....it's criminal, I know). I don't like loud colours at this point in my life; subtle and timeless colours like gunmetal gray, Midnight Blue or Estoril Blue are up my alley and are under consideration. What do you guys think? Should I go for White or settle for other "practical" colours? Headed to Bluegreen Motor Werks. Nathan and Mike drove my car and gave their 2-sens worth. Mike the front man knows what's he's talking about and inspires confidence. They also operate a parts shop upstairs and a paint shop in Klang. Project Phoenix is two stage: Stage 1: Get key mechanical parts in tip top condition ie engine, gearbox and suspension. Stage 2: a. Refurbish interior, repair/replace interior parts mentioned in this thread earlier and respray car with PPG Pearl White (RM5,500) b. Upgrade in-car stereo system, exhaust, change warped/wrinkled rear windscreen tint and if I'm not broke by then, upgrade stock wheels to BBS 15 inch/16 inch wheels. Mike quoted RM20K to RM25K to do Stage 1 and Stage 2a, an estimate that can swing lower or higher, depending on what needs changing after the car is stripped down. If capped at RM20K, engine work would only be limited to changing gaskets and cleaning up to prevents leaks (top overhaul). Here's where it gets interesting. The price quoted includes conversion of a GM 4-speed auto to 5-speed Getrag manual (if Mike can find it, he says E36 manuals are getting rare to source from overseas.....looking forward to one from Japan, where used cars are known to be low-milers) - the conversion is around RM5000+ and includes a 7-day warranty from Bluegreen. According to Mike, a Getrag manual is better than a ZF manual, which is more sensitive and not as robust or reliable as a Getrag. I like the way Bluegreen is upfront. If the price for the scope of work is too pricey for your taste, you have the option to reveal your budget and they will tell you what can be done within said budget. Bluegreen is shorthanded now, having lost some manpower and is advertising for apprentice and mechanics. As a result it has a few customer BMWs that are still awaiting to be worked on. Mike says he needs to clear the backlog first over the next few weeks and the earliest he can accept a new car for restoration is April/May. The job is expected to take 3 months. I know Bluegreen comes highly recommended by some senior forummers. Is Optimum Automotive of Kayu Ara and one called (if I'm not mistaken) Bavarian Motor Works located across the road from Optimum and on a hillock closer to Damansara Toll Plaza, of similar calibre - ie they pay attention to detail and don't take shortcuts while charging reasonable rates? I may use Bluegreen but for now, I'd would like to weigh the options out there before I push the GO button. I shall use this thread to document my restoration journey as and when I can find the time to do it. With pix, of course. [B]More on Bluegreen Motor Werks here:[/B] [URL="http://www.therakyatpost.com/motoring/2014/11/13/trusted-bmw-specialist/#ixzz3RMLy3x6S"]http://www.therakyatpost.com/motoring/2014/11/13/trusted-bmw-specialist/#ixzz3RMLy3x6S[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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