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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Morganl" data-source="post: 465994" data-attributes="member: 13931">thanks for all your suggestions... one of the reason why I'm thinking to switch out of BMW is because BMW Malaysia seems to have lost their 'touch' with the customer on the ground.... the satisfaction of driving a BMW is not there anymore and their pricing strategy had been getting more & more screwed up. I mean, why price it 30k-40k more when you know that you are going to give out 30k discount later for Demo car/training car/pre-reg car? that pricing strategy undercut buyers who wants to get a brand new car, but these ppl will be put off by the huge amount of discount that BMW Malaysia is giving to those pre-reg/demo/training cars....so eventually every one waits for BMW to clear stock, have innovation days, trash more training cars, so that they can finally get their hands on the precious little baby that had been trashed left right center by someone else like him/her b4..... and don't think this will not have an impact on your resell value later as everyone is using the 'pre-reg/demo/training' car price as their benchmark price now instead of the official 'list price' which means nothing apart from been printed on a BMW paper nowadays.... X1 price in HK is the same as 320i.... over here, u can get a pre-reg 320i + a Toyota Avanza, mod it to be 'on-par' with your 320i and still have some spare change for petrol & accessories/poison for your 320i... X5 is suppose to be a direct competiting product with Q5, but in Msia, if u r gunning brand new X5, chances are you can get 2 Q5 already....The 3 series is practically the slowest car among it's peer, down to the point where even a reasonably mod Avanza oso can beat the crap out of 320i.... talking about 'Ultimate Driving Machine'..... otherwise why do you think BMW Malaysia had to bring in the 320d variant even though the diesel here is not suitable and you can only pump it at petronas??E60 had always given a very clear 'upgrade path' for the owner for 3 series.... once you had enuff of your 3 series, you always know in your mind what car will be your next ride.....but with the launch of F10, that 'upgrade path' just disappear in front of me over-night....the styling/design of F10 is not really a replacement for E60 but rather a "7-series-wanna-be'... let's not forget that the F10 is a SKD model from Thailand too, so why pay a freaking premium for something that's made in Thailand? If you are going to use AP to bring in cars, why Thailand made and not Germany made? All Malaysian really believe that crap about Thailand can build better cars than Germany???? Since the new F10 is priced higher than the new E class baseline model (E200 CGI), I won't be surprise if they start giving huge discount on F10 once their sales starts to slow down.... There's F10 demo car available for sales already (8k mileage)... and E200 CGI is in no way less capable than the F10 525i....If VW/Audi can price their fully imported made in Germany cars at the same price range with BMW (CKD/SKD model), what kind of margin BMW Malaysia is trying to make here? This kind of 'milk your customer to the maximum' profit retaining model will eventually come back to haunt them as this strategy is not customer retentive friendly at all.... that's how VW is  canibalizing 3 series sales in Malaysia... Let's look at all the arguement we are making here about 'both cars are not comparable, we are only comparing these cars with BMW because they are priced at the same range'.. don't you think that there's a big problem with that arguement? How could these car ended up within the same price range as a BMW when these cars are fully imported from Germany versus a locally CKD BMW? VW cars are fully imported from Germany or South Africa, not CKD/SKD, 5 years warranty, unlimited mileage.... BMW? Pre-reg, CKD or made in Thailand, 3 years or 60k mileage BSRI, and then they tell you oppsss... you gotta send your car to service every 7.5k km interval instead of the 'recommended' 15k km....I was actually giving the new E Class a very serious consideration.....  up till the point where I asked for the colour that I want (available even in show room), and they told me it's no longer in production, and that "Rich ppl don't choose colour 1, they are fine with any colour between black and silver, and we are even offering white colour in addition to those 2".... if I'm paying almost 400k for a car, I think I deserve to at least pick the colour of my choice, don't I????Q5 waiting period is too freaking long, no doubt Audi make good car, but I'm not sure if Audi Malaysia means business with that kind of rediculous waiting period... and if I need to wait 1 year to get a brand new car, guess how long it'll take for them to get spare parts if something went wrong with the 'brand new car'? It's amazing how the grey importers are pricing a recond used car same price with a brand new car.... probably you won't get to see this kind of amusement anywhere else...so my conclusion is that Msia car market is really a mess..... it's even more difficult to choose between Najib & Badawi to be honest..... that's why I'm still confused on what car I should really get to replace my 'Ultimate Super Fast Driving Machine That Lose To Everyone Else'...</blockquote>

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