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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dark1234" data-source="post: 566867" data-attributes="member: 1981">agreed, actually its like this for 2nd car dealer they use whichever way they can to get the best lowest price from you , e.g. manufacturing year. but even my november f10 on realoem say its manufactured in july , even it out in November. thus you get lower value estimation based from them but not to owner directly .for owner purchase its based on millage , e.g.e60 year 2008 millage 30K ( local spec / not AP , cuz ap version 90% are fake millage )  : RM 155kand e60 year 2009 millage 60K  : RM 155kis the 2009 cheaper or 2008 more expensive ?, which one you will buy ?then of course  there are the registration date factor, like some buy in december but registered at jan.btw when you collect your car key and start the car the car already lost 10% value when drive out of show room.thats why there are some who only purchase 2nd car.</blockquote>