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Message: <blockquote data-quote="glock_8" data-source="post: 451757" data-attributes="member: 14626">i'd take hp over torque anytime...and the 320d does clatters like a lorry last time i drove it during bmw innovation days and during the driver training session....the 380nm torque is merely an "on paper" figure since the power delivery is not like i wanted it to be...atleast the 280nm golf gti gives u better "push-you-back-into-you-seat" than the 320d...and i doubt with 5k rpm redline anybody would enjoy a spirited driving when all it does is shifting gear up n down at the wrong time while listening the horrible 4 pot diesel screaming....<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /></blockquote>